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		<title>Comment on Will People Please Stop Saying God Particle? by herman greenstein</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2006/11/21/will-people-please-stop-saying-god-particle/#comment-117992</link>
		<dc:creator>herman greenstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 22:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://asymptotia.com/2006/11/21/will-people-please-stop-saying-god-particle/#comment-117992</guid>
		<description>Nature, it seems, is the popular name
for milliards and milliards and milliards
of particles playing their infinite game
of billiards and billiards and billiards.

  "ATOMYRIADES" by Piet Hein (Danish mathematician and poet)</description>
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for milliards and milliards and milliards<br />
of particles playing their infinite game<br />
of billiards and billiards and billiards.</p>
<p>  &#8220;ATOMYRIADES&#8221; by Piet Hein (Danish mathematician and poet)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ferrous Thoughts by Plato</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2008/05/16/ferrous-thoughts/#comment-117973</link>
		<dc:creator>Plato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 15:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://asymptotia.com/2008/05/16/ferrous-thoughts/#comment-117973</guid>
		<description>So what did you think of the device that was used to power the suit? Powered him?

This push me back to Keanu Reeves movie with Morgan Freeman called,"&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chain_Reaction_%28film%29" title="Chain Reaction is a 1996 American film starring Keanu Reeves, Rachel Weisz, Morgan Freeman, Kevin Dunn and Fred Ward." rel="nofollow"&gt;Chain Reaction&lt;/a&gt;." To see "resonances" used in this way?

We had talked previously on the basis of, "I am Legend" as well in this same respect.

I think this goes to the idea that scientists are somehow indeed nerdy, in that they like to spend their time resolute, looking for the secrets to life. White coats and all, glasses to peer ever deeply into the very fabric of the nature of the universe. IN the movie this take was different, having a compadre to help him along.

But yes, it is more then that.

I can relate in that I was interested in ionic generators and tried crudely to manufacture all the parts myself. So seeing a lathe being used, or metal fabrication being done, along side of the intricate, well, I would not say, so far as the electronics and soldering you had done. 

I did get shocks playing with the old tube radios.:)

I think this is the kind of adventure "with invention" is what gives one a boost to keeping on top of technological developments. If one had never been a participant to technological change, one might never understand the changes one has to make in adapting. In my case what was intuitive in technological processes now became detach from the way i had always done things.

These examples I am sure can be the thoughts shared by our scientists and the way they did there counting and observations of tracks left in the bubble chambers?

Over all, I liked the show very much too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what did you think of the device that was used to power the suit? Powered him?</p>
<p>This push me back to Keanu Reeves movie with Morgan Freeman called,&#8221;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chain_Reaction_%28film%29" title="Chain Reaction is a 1996 American film starring Keanu Reeves, Rachel Weisz, Morgan Freeman, Kevin Dunn and Fred Ward." rel="nofollow">Chain Reaction</a>.&#8221; To see &#8220;resonances&#8221; used in this way?</p>
<p>We had talked previously on the basis of, &#8220;I am Legend&#8221; as well in this same respect.</p>
<p>I think this goes to the idea that scientists are somehow indeed nerdy, in that they like to spend their time resolute, looking for the secrets to life. White coats and all, glasses to peer ever deeply into the very fabric of the nature of the universe. IN the movie this take was different, having a compadre to help him along.</p>
<p>But yes, it is more then that.</p>
<p>I can relate in that I was interested in ionic generators and tried crudely to manufacture all the parts myself. So seeing a lathe being used, or metal fabrication being done, along side of the intricate, well, I would not say, so far as the electronics and soldering you had done. </p>
<p>I did get shocks playing with the old tube radios.:)</p>
<p>I think this is the kind of adventure &#8220;with invention&#8221; is what gives one a boost to keeping on top of technological developments. If one had never been a participant to technological change, one might never understand the changes one has to make in adapting. In my case what was intuitive in technological processes now became detach from the way i had always done things.</p>
<p>These examples I am sure can be the thoughts shared by our scientists and the way they did there counting and observations of tracks left in the bubble chambers?</p>
<p>Over all, I liked the show very much too.</p>
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		<title>Comment on We Interrupt This Broadcast&#8230; by Clifford</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2008/05/12/we-interrupt-this-broadcast/#comment-117972</link>
		<dc:creator>Clifford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 14:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://asymptotia.com/2008/05/12/we-interrupt-this-broadcast/#comment-117972</guid>
		<description>Hi,

No, I was not. Was barely out of school myself. I was in my second year  as an undergraduate, and Princeton was a dream away then. The dreams probably began a year and a half (or maybe two) later when I read "Who Got Einstein's Office?" by Ed Regis.

Fantastic to hear about your school and the parade!

-cvj</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>No, I was not. Was barely out of school myself. I was in my second year  as an undergraduate, and Princeton was a dream away then. The dreams probably began a year and a half (or maybe two) later when I read &#8220;Who Got Einstein&#8217;s Office?&#8221; by Ed Regis.</p>
<p>Fantastic to hear about your school and the parade!</p>
<p>-cvj</p>
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		<title>Comment on We Interrupt This Broadcast&#8230; by Lab Lemming</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2008/05/12/we-interrupt-this-broadcast/#comment-117967</link>
		<dc:creator>Lab Lemming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 11:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://asymptotia.com/2008/05/12/we-interrupt-this-broadcast/#comment-117967</guid>
		<description>Hey Clifford,
My high school was about a mile south of the Grover's Mill "landing site", so for the 50th anniversary, we had a parade down 571 and they opened a little park on the edge of the pond there (that's when they unveiled that plaque on the wiki site).  The water tower that allegedly got shot at was still standing 10 years ago or so, the last time I was down that way.
They also rebroadcast the original on Oct 30, 1988, at the correct time.  Were you in Princeton then?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Clifford,<br />
My high school was about a mile south of the Grover&#8217;s Mill &#8220;landing site&#8221;, so for the 50th anniversary, we had a parade down 571 and they opened a little park on the edge of the pond there (that&#8217;s when they unveiled that plaque on the wiki site).  The water tower that allegedly got shot at was still standing 10 years ago or so, the last time I was down that way.<br />
They also rebroadcast the original on Oct 30, 1988, at the correct time.  Were you in Princeton then?</p>
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		<title>Comment on LaTeX Sandbox by Plareplane</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/latex-sandbox/#comment-117943</link>
		<dc:creator>Plareplane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 04:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://asymptotia.com/latex-sandbox/#comment-117943</guid>
		<description>For Tom Petty
[tex]
\int_1^{15} xe^(ax) dx = xe^(ax)/a - e^(ax)/a^2 \rvert_1^{15} = (15e^(a15)/a - e^(a15)/a^2) - (e^a/a - e^a/a^2)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For Tom Petty<br />
<img src='http://asymptotia.com/mimetex/pictures/2ef33817abf63d79dca8eadebed89693.gif' title='&#10;\int_1^{15} xe^(ax) dx = xe^(ax)/a - e^(ax)/a^2 \rvert_1^{15} = (15e^(a15)/a - e^(a15)/a^2) - (e^a/a - e^a/a^2)&#10;' alt='&#10;\int_1^{15} xe^(ax) dx = xe^(ax)/a - e^(ax)/a^2 \rvert_1^{15} = (15e^(a15)/a - e^(a15)/a^2) - (e^a/a - e^a/a^2)&#10;' align=absmiddle/></p>
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		<title>Comment on Final Thoughts by Clifford</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2008/05/13/final-thoughts/#comment-117923</link>
		<dc:creator>Clifford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 21:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://asymptotia.com/2008/05/13/final-thoughts/#comment-117923</guid>
		<description>David,

Working on hiring agents for lots of things... so sure, you can lobby to be my product placement agent! :-)

-cvj</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,</p>
<p>Working on hiring agents for lots of things&#8230; so sure, you can lobby to be my product placement agent! <img src='http://asymptotia.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
-cvj</p>
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		<title>Comment on Final Thoughts by David</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2008/05/13/final-thoughts/#comment-117919</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 19:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://asymptotia.com/2008/05/13/final-thoughts/#comment-117919</guid>
		<description>Dear Clifford,

How much do you get for product placement from Duvel and for that matter Brompton bikes. If not can I be your agent?
Just examined my GR course on Monday. All passed and some did very well, which sort of satisfying. Hope your exam goes well too..

David B</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Clifford,</p>
<p>How much do you get for product placement from Duvel and for that matter Brompton bikes. If not can I be your agent?<br />
Just examined my GR course on Monday. All passed and some did very well, which sort of satisfying. Hope your exam goes well too..</p>
<p>David B</p>
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		<title>Comment on Idiocracy by Plato</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2008/05/13/idiocracy/#comment-117912</link>
		<dc:creator>Plato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 16:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://asymptotia.com/2008/05/13/idiocracy/#comment-117912</guid>
		<description>Just to follow up. The Post entry was called "&lt;a href="http://asymptotia.com/2008/01/30/hot-library-smut/" title="Hot Library Smut-by Clifford on January 30, 2008" rel="nofollow"&gt;Hot Library Smut&lt;/a&gt;."

And you then point to Shifting Baselines.

Quote from Scienceblogs,"&lt;a href="http://scienceblogs.com/shiftingbaselines/2008/01/shifting_literature.php" rel="nofollow"&gt;Shifting Literature&lt;/a&gt; by Jennifer L. Jacquet?

Ursula Le Guin

    &lt;i&gt;In its silence, a book is a challenge: it can't lull you with surging music or deafen you with screeching laugh tracks or fire gunshots in your living room; you have to listen to it in your head. A book won't move your eyes for you the way images on a screen do. It won't move your mind unless you give it your mind, or your heart unless you put your heart in it. It won't do the work for you. To read a story well is to follow it, to act it, to feel it, to become it--everything short of writing it, in fact. Reading is not "interactive" with a set of rules or options, as games are; reading is actual collaboration with the writer's mind. No wonder not everybody is up to it.&lt;/i&gt;

So we lost something in the technological exchange, and thusly, accounts for the decline?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to follow up. The Post entry was called &#8220;<a href="http://asymptotia.com/2008/01/30/hot-library-smut/" title="Hot Library Smut-by Clifford on January 30, 2008" rel="nofollow">Hot Library Smut</a>.&#8221;</p>
<p>And you then point to Shifting Baselines.</p>
<p>Quote from Scienceblogs,&#8221;<a href="http://scienceblogs.com/shiftingbaselines/2008/01/shifting_literature.php" rel="nofollow">Shifting Literature</a> by Jennifer L. Jacquet?</p>
<p>Ursula Le Guin</p>
<p>    <i>In its silence, a book is a challenge: it can&#8217;t lull you with surging music or deafen you with screeching laugh tracks or fire gunshots in your living room; you have to listen to it in your head. A book won&#8217;t move your eyes for you the way images on a screen do. It won&#8217;t move your mind unless you give it your mind, or your heart unless you put your heart in it. It won&#8217;t do the work for you. To read a story well is to follow it, to act it, to feel it, to become it&#8211;everything short of writing it, in fact. Reading is not &#8220;interactive&#8221; with a set of rules or options, as games are; reading is actual collaboration with the writer&#8217;s mind. No wonder not everybody is up to it.</i></p>
<p>So we lost something in the technological exchange, and thusly, accounts for the decline?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Final Thoughts by Bryan T. Napoli</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2008/05/13/final-thoughts/#comment-117910</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryan T. Napoli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 15:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://asymptotia.com/2008/05/13/final-thoughts/#comment-117910</guid>
		<description>What a great place to work and what a great beer to enjoy while working!  Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a great place to work and what a great beer to enjoy while working!  Cheers!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Final Thoughts by Dimitri Terryn</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2008/05/13/final-thoughts/#comment-117909</link>
		<dc:creator>Dimitri Terryn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 13:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://asymptotia.com/2008/05/13/final-thoughts/#comment-117909</guid>
		<description>Duvel! You sure know your beers Clifford ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Duvel! You sure know your beers Clifford <img src='http://asymptotia.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>Comment on The Lighter Side of Pluto&#8230; by abdolbaset</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2006/08/25/the-lighter-side-of-pluto/#comment-117893</link>
		<dc:creator>abdolbaset</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 10:20:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://asymptotia.com/2006/08/25/the-lighter-side-of-pluto/#comment-117893</guid>
		<description>hello .hello...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hello .hello&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Idiocracy by Plato</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2008/05/13/idiocracy/#comment-117884</link>
		<dc:creator>Plato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 03:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://asymptotia.com/2008/05/13/idiocracy/#comment-117884</guid>
		<description>Hmmmm.....maybe the instructions weren't meant to be read?:)

On/Off

Anyway, I was thinking of a comparison movie that I saw a long time ago. I knew it was about "&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_burning" rel="nofollow"&gt;book burning&lt;/a&gt;." So of course, I googled and wiki'd it.

&lt;a href="NewYorkSocietyForTheSuppressionOfVice.jpg" rel="nofollow"&gt;Symbol of the "New York Society for the Suppression of Vice", advocating book-burning.&lt;/a&gt; 

So here's a possible scene unfolding, not having seen the film mentioned.

&lt;b&gt;An incident in the New Plot of, "The Cultural Decline."&lt;/b&gt;

This is the "police badge" above,  used by the peace officers for the "over achievers" who secretly read books.

No one, reads books anymore.

It's one of those regretful actions. That by mistake, Johnny burns a rare copy of a book unknowingly trying to prove his point? 
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But more to your point about peering into the movie itself?

&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_McLuhan" rel="nofollow"&gt;The medium is the message&lt;/a&gt; by Marshall Luhan

&lt;i&gt;McLuhan also claimed in Understanding Media that different media invite different degrees of participation on the part of a person who chooses to consume a medium. Some media, like the movies, enhance one single sense, in this case vision, in such a manner that a person does not need to exert much effort in filling in the details of a movie image. McLuhan contrasted this with TV, which he claimed requires more effort on the part of viewer to determine meaning, and comics, which due to their minimal presentation of visual detail require a high degree of effort to fill in details that the cartoonist may have intended to portray. A movie is thus said by McLuhan to be "hot", intensifying one single sense "high definition", demanding a viewer's attention, and a comic book to be "cool" and "low definition", requiring much more conscious participation by the reader to extract value.[4] This concentration on the medium itself, and how it conveys information — rather than on the specific content of the information — is the focal point of "the medium is the message".&lt;/i&gt;

New medium, new ways to think about cultural decline. Bee certainly thinks about it a lot. I couldn't help remember the library's and pictures you had in a post previous.

Will have to watch for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmmm&#8230;..maybe the instructions weren&#8217;t meant to be read?:)</p>
<p>On/Off</p>
<p>Anyway, I was thinking of a comparison movie that I saw a long time ago. I knew it was about &#8220;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_burning" rel="nofollow">book burning</a>.&#8221; So of course, I googled and wiki&#8217;d it.</p>
<p><a href="NewYorkSocietyForTheSuppressionOfVice.jpg?PHPSESSID=509a15bfae87d88ca0ccca1c73c4f47b" rel="nofollow">Symbol of the &#8220;New York Society for the Suppression of Vice&#8221;, advocating book-burning.</a> </p>
<p>So here&#8217;s a possible scene unfolding, not having seen the film mentioned.</p>
<p><b>An incident in the New Plot of, &#8220;The Cultural Decline.&#8221;</b></p>
<p>This is the &#8220;police badge&#8221; above,  used by the peace officers for the &#8220;over achievers&#8221; who secretly read books.</p>
<p>No one, reads books anymore.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s one of those regretful actions. That by mistake, Johnny burns a rare copy of a book unknowingly trying to prove his point?<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>But more to your point about peering into the movie itself?</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_McLuhan" rel="nofollow">The medium is the message</a> by Marshall Luhan</p>
<p><i>McLuhan also claimed in Understanding Media that different media invite different degrees of participation on the part of a person who chooses to consume a medium. Some media, like the movies, enhance one single sense, in this case vision, in such a manner that a person does not need to exert much effort in filling in the details of a movie image. McLuhan contrasted this with TV, which he claimed requires more effort on the part of viewer to determine meaning, and comics, which due to their minimal presentation of visual detail require a high degree of effort to fill in details that the cartoonist may have intended to portray. A movie is thus said by McLuhan to be &#8220;hot&#8221;, intensifying one single sense &#8220;high definition&#8221;, demanding a viewer&#8217;s attention, and a comic book to be &#8220;cool&#8221; and &#8220;low definition&#8221;, requiring much more conscious participation by the reader to extract value.[4] This concentration on the medium itself, and how it conveys information — rather than on the specific content of the information — is the focal point of &#8220;the medium is the message&#8221;.</i></p>
<p>New medium, new ways to think about cultural decline. Bee certainly thinks about it a lot. I couldn&#8217;t help remember the library&#8217;s and pictures you had in a post previous.</p>
<p>Will have to watch for it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Idiocracy by John Branch</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2008/05/13/idiocracy/#comment-117855</link>
		<dc:creator>John Branch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 16:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://asymptotia.com/2008/05/13/idiocracy/#comment-117855</guid>
		<description>I'm adding &lt;i&gt;Idiocracy&lt;/i&gt; to my Netflix queue right now. Thanks for the tip.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m adding <i>Idiocracy</i> to my Netflix queue right now. Thanks for the tip.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Idiocracy by Haelfix</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2008/05/13/idiocracy/#comment-117838</link>
		<dc:creator>Haelfix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 05:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://asymptotia.com/2008/05/13/idiocracy/#comment-117838</guid>
		<description>Well as a counterpoint, the world literacy rate has steadily increased throughout the 20th century, and there is the everpresent Flinn effect for IQ.

Its also a psychological fact, that most people tend to see the world around them as somehow lesser than it used to be.  A nostalgia of sorts that has a tendency to make anecdotal reports problematic.

I feel the same way frankly, but then many of the numbers don't really seem to back the impression up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well as a counterpoint, the world literacy rate has steadily increased throughout the 20th century, and there is the everpresent Flinn effect for IQ.</p>
<p>Its also a psychological fact, that most people tend to see the world around them as somehow lesser than it used to be.  A nostalgia of sorts that has a tendency to make anecdotal reports problematic.</p>
<p>I feel the same way frankly, but then many of the numbers don&#8217;t really seem to back the impression up.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Idiocracy by Clifford</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2008/05/13/idiocracy/#comment-117833</link>
		<dc:creator>Clifford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 03:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://asymptotia.com/2008/05/13/idiocracy/#comment-117833</guid>
		<description>The latter part of what you're saying is what I'm getting at.

&gt; Now, a majority of people seem to *choose* ignorance and take pride &gt; in it. I agree with that.

 And the weight of the culture, and its various powerful means of dissemination,   is such that it seems to be getting harder to choose otherwise for many.

Cheers,

-cvj</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The latter part of what you&#8217;re saying is what I&#8217;m getting at.</p>
<p>> Now, a majority of people seem to *choose* ignorance and take pride > in it. I agree with that.</p>
<p> And the weight of the culture, and its various powerful means of dissemination,   is such that it seems to be getting harder to choose otherwise for many.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>-cvj</p>
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		<title>Comment on Idiocracy by Jude</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2008/05/13/idiocracy/#comment-117830</link>
		<dc:creator>Jude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 02:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://asymptotia.com/2008/05/13/idiocracy/#comment-117830</guid>
		<description>My reference to history comes from thinking about my own particular ancestors, one of whom was pulled out of school at the age of 9 to become a coal miner because, as his dad put it, he could read and write.  I think of myself and what I would have become without universal free public education--just a wife?  Or a boy I knew in Mexico back in the 1960s who brought a high school to his town because he could not afford to move the 40 miles to the nearest high school.  His dad had died and he was the main support for a flock of brothers and sisters who were younger, but he still fought for his education.  For most of history, ignorance has reigned and most people have lacked the opportunity or desire to change that.  Now, a majority of people seem to *choose* ignorance and take pride in it.  I agree with that.  As a parent, though, I sometimes think it is the choice of the parents to keep their children ignorant.  But I don't suppose I have time to explain that, so it will remain an unsubstantiated statement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My reference to history comes from thinking about my own particular ancestors, one of whom was pulled out of school at the age of 9 to become a coal miner because, as his dad put it, he could read and write.  I think of myself and what I would have become without universal free public education&#8211;just a wife?  Or a boy I knew in Mexico back in the 1960s who brought a high school to his town because he could not afford to move the 40 miles to the nearest high school.  His dad had died and he was the main support for a flock of brothers and sisters who were younger, but he still fought for his education.  For most of history, ignorance has reigned and most people have lacked the opportunity or desire to change that.  Now, a majority of people seem to *choose* ignorance and take pride in it.  I agree with that.  As a parent, though, I sometimes think it is the choice of the parents to keep their children ignorant.  But I don&#8217;t suppose I have time to explain that, so it will remain an unsubstantiated statement.</p>
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		<title>Comment on It&#8217;s Bike to Work Week! by Clifford</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2008/05/12/its-bike-to-work-week/#comment-117829</link>
		<dc:creator>Clifford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 02:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://asymptotia.com/2008/05/12/its-bike-to-work-week/#comment-117829</guid>
		<description>They are worth the money. You can buy some cheap shiny thing that'll fall apart in a few years, or pay twice as much and have it last a lifetime.... oh, and fold faster and smaller and ride better. Compared to your car insurance, gas, and so forth, benefits to health and state of mind etc., even the  most expensive such bike (within reason) is a tiny investment to make.

Cheers,

-cvj</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They are worth the money. You can buy some cheap shiny thing that&#8217;ll fall apart in a few years, or pay twice as much and have it last a lifetime&#8230;. oh, and fold faster and smaller and ride better. Compared to your car insurance, gas, and so forth, benefits to health and state of mind etc., even the  most expensive such bike (within reason) is a tiny investment to make.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>-cvj</p>
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		<title>Comment on It&#8217;s Bike to Work Week! by Emily</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2008/05/12/its-bike-to-work-week/#comment-117828</link>
		<dc:creator>Emily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 01:55:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://asymptotia.com/2008/05/12/its-bike-to-work-week/#comment-117828</guid>
		<description>Thanks for the Folding Bikes West tip Clifford, I'll be heading down
south this weekend and I'll try to check them out.  I do like your
cute Brompton but they are a bit on the pricey side, but if they
are worth the money, I might make the stretch.  I'll certainly
shoot you an email if I need help making a decision, thanks for the
offer!

Best,

Emily</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the Folding Bikes West tip Clifford, I&#8217;ll be heading down<br />
south this weekend and I&#8217;ll try to check them out.  I do like your<br />
cute Brompton but they are a bit on the pricey side, but if they<br />
are worth the money, I might make the stretch.  I&#8217;ll certainly<br />
shoot you an email if I need help making a decision, thanks for the<br />
offer!</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Emily</p>
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		<title>Comment on Idiocracy by Clifford</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2008/05/13/idiocracy/#comment-117821</link>
		<dc:creator>Clifford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 22:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://asymptotia.com/2008/05/13/idiocracy/#comment-117821</guid>
		<description>No it was not the best example of everything in this category... but there are some key things, such as their need to tell the driver to look out for other traffic, tell them that a parking lot is the best place, and generally over-explain things so that people cannot blame or sue the writer of the instructions for anything utterly silly that they might do.

Allied to the degeneration into a culture where people are not encouraged to think for themselves is the fear that when people end up doing silly things as a result of their own not-thinking, they will blame/sue. 

-cvj</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No it was not the best example of everything in this category&#8230; but there are some key things, such as their need to tell the driver to look out for other traffic, tell them that a parking lot is the best place, and generally over-explain things so that people cannot blame or sue the writer of the instructions for anything utterly silly that they might do.</p>
<p>Allied to the degeneration into a culture where people are not encouraged to think for themselves is the fear that when people end up doing silly things as a result of their own not-thinking, they will blame/sue. </p>
<p>-cvj</p>
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		<title>Comment on Idiocracy by Carl Brannen</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2008/05/13/idiocracy/#comment-117815</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl Brannen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 21:48:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://asymptotia.com/2008/05/13/idiocracy/#comment-117815</guid>
		<description>I thought the "circle driving" instructions were not a good example. If I tell someone to "drive their car in a circle twice", they could waste time trying to find a circle to drive it on. "Circle" is a geometric ideal that doesn't express the desired activity very well.

By the way, one thing the instructions didn't specify is if you had to keep your direction vector steadily rotating in the same direction. What happens if instead of making 4 right hand turns you make 3 right hand turns, 1 left hand turn, and then 2 right hand turns?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought the &#8220;circle driving&#8221; instructions were not a good example. If I tell someone to &#8220;drive their car in a circle twice&#8221;, they could waste time trying to find a circle to drive it on. &#8220;Circle&#8221; is a geometric ideal that doesn&#8217;t express the desired activity very well.</p>
<p>By the way, one thing the instructions didn&#8217;t specify is if you had to keep your direction vector steadily rotating in the same direction. What happens if instead of making 4 right hand turns you make 3 right hand turns, 1 left hand turn, and then 2 right hand turns?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Idiocracy by Ed</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2008/05/13/idiocracy/#comment-117808</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 20:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://asymptotia.com/2008/05/13/idiocracy/#comment-117808</guid>
		<description>It's the neanderthal genes coming to the front.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s the neanderthal genes coming to the front.</p>
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		<title>Comment on It&#8217;s Bike to Work Week! by Clifford</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2008/05/12/its-bike-to-work-week/#comment-117806</link>
		<dc:creator>Clifford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 19:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://asymptotia.com/2008/05/12/its-bike-to-work-week/#comment-117806</guid>
		<description>No. Closest at present is in Oceanside. Folding Bikes West. Sister store to a Seattle store.

If you have questions about folding bikes, I might be able to help a bit with navigating through the mess. Email me.

But why would you want anything other than a cute Brompton like the one pictured above?! ;-)

-cvj</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No. Closest at present is in Oceanside. Folding Bikes West. Sister store to a Seattle store.</p>
<p>If you have questions about folding bikes, I might be able to help a bit with navigating through the mess. Email me.</p>
<p>But why would you want anything other than a cute Brompton like the one pictured above?! <img src='http://asymptotia.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
-cvj</p>
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		<title>Comment on It&#8217;s Bike to Work Week! by Emily</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2008/05/12/its-bike-to-work-week/#comment-117797</link>
		<dc:creator>Emily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 17:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://asymptotia.com/2008/05/12/its-bike-to-work-week/#comment-117797</guid>
		<description>I've been shopping for a folding bike.  I came across a good &lt;a href="http://www.foldingcyclist.com/" rel="nofollow"&gt;folding bike info&lt;/a&gt; site that
had a buyer's guide which helped me sort through the myriad of choices.  But I'd like to ride one of them before buying one so where in L.A. is a bicycle shop that carries a lot of them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been shopping for a folding bike.  I came across a good <a href="http://www.foldingcyclist.com/" rel="nofollow">folding bike info</a> site that<br />
had a buyer&#8217;s guide which helped me sort through the myriad of choices.  But I&#8217;d like to ride one of them before buying one so where in L.A. is a bicycle shop that carries a lot of them?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Idiocracy by Clifford</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2008/05/13/idiocracy/#comment-117796</link>
		<dc:creator>Clifford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 17:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://asymptotia.com/2008/05/13/idiocracy/#comment-117796</guid>
		<description>Hi Jude,

It is little to do with intelligence, and everything to do with education, and the value placed on it by society at a given time, vs other things. I am quite sure that I am no more intelligent than that person in the store who, annoyingly,  knows nothing about their merchandise. It is just that it is not seen as important any more for them to learn about it - nor to take pride in knowing.

I read a lot of history, and so am mostly on the fence about how much we've changed for many things... nevertheless changes do happen, even if cyclic. I do think that anti-intellectualism dominates (or threatens to dominate) the culture more than it ever did in recent times. Especially if it serves the political ends of the people in control of very large power bases. 

There are probably pocket examples of this in the past here and there, but I don't think it was always like this. It is tied to the greater immediacy and reach that mass media has as compared to before. That is largely new (as a matter of both scale and penetration), and so new phenomena can appear that  had not been present before. 

Also, I think that the stakes are very high here. An anti-intellectual culture affected the election of a knowledge-suppressing government of the most powerful country on the planet, for example. 

Cheers,

-cvj</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jude,</p>
<p>It is little to do with intelligence, and everything to do with education, and the value placed on it by society at a given time, vs other things. I am quite sure that I am no more intelligent than that person in the store who, annoyingly,  knows nothing about their merchandise. It is just that it is not seen as important any more for them to learn about it - nor to take pride in knowing.</p>
<p>I read a lot of history, and so am mostly on the fence about how much we&#8217;ve changed for many things&#8230; nevertheless changes do happen, even if cyclic. I do think that anti-intellectualism dominates (or threatens to dominate) the culture more than it ever did in recent times. Especially if it serves the political ends of the people in control of very large power bases. </p>
<p>There are probably pocket examples of this in the past here and there, but I don&#8217;t think it was always like this. It is tied to the greater immediacy and reach that mass media has as compared to before. That is largely new (as a matter of both scale and penetration), and so new phenomena can appear that  had not been present before. </p>
<p>Also, I think that the stakes are very high here. An anti-intellectual culture affected the election of a knowledge-suppressing government of the most powerful country on the planet, for example. </p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>-cvj</p>
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		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2008/05/12/its-bike-to-work-week/#comment-117795</link>
		<dc:creator>Emily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 17:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://asymptotia.com/2008/05/12/its-bike-to-work-week/#comment-117795</guid>
		<description>I've been shopping for a folding bike.  I came across a good &lt;a href="http://www.foldingcyclist.com/" rel="nofollow"&gt;folding bike info&lt;/a&gt; site that had a buyer's guide which helped me sort through the myriad of choices.  However, I'd like to actually ride one of them before I buy so where in L.A. is a good bicycle shop that carries them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been shopping for a folding bike.  I came across a good <a href="http://www.foldingcyclist.com/" rel="nofollow">folding bike info</a> site that had a buyer&#8217;s guide which helped me sort through the myriad of choices.  However, I&#8217;d like to actually ride one of them before I buy so where in L.A. is a good bicycle shop that carries them?</p>
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