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		<title>By: Lab Lemming</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2008/02/06/equivalence/#comment-109676</link>
		<dc:creator>Lab Lemming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 01:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I take it all back.  Without relativity, we would miss stuff:
http://planetary.org/blog/article/00001329/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I take it all back.  Without relativity, we would miss stuff:<br />
<a href="http://planetary.org/blog/article/00001329/" rel="nofollow">http://planetary.org/blog/article/00001329/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Athena</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2008/02/06/equivalence/#comment-108972</link>
		<dc:creator>Athena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 03:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought the answer was 42.

; )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought the answer was 42.</p>
<p>; )</p>
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		<title>By: Clifford</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2008/02/06/equivalence/#comment-108970</link>
		<dc:creator>Clifford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 02:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uh... 17?

-cvj</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh&#8230; 17?</p>
<p>-cvj</p>
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		<title>By: Lab Lemming</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2008/02/06/equivalence/#comment-108963</link>
		<dc:creator>Lab Lemming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 01:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, but how much of figuring out how nature works requires more advanced physics, and how much can be done with old-fashioned physics, if only we could figure out how to get better data?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, but how much of figuring out how nature works requires more advanced physics, and how much can be done with old-fashioned physics, if only we could figure out how to get better data?</p>
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		<title>By: Clifford</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2008/02/06/equivalence/#comment-108794</link>
		<dc:creator>Clifford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 01:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
Progress at what? Assuming that one limits one’s calculations to the part of the universe that is inhabited by us, how does relativity help us with anything other than very high precision involving satellites?"
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Progress in understanding how Nature works, plain and simple. If you wish to put your head in the sand and pretend that g is 10, and so forth that's really up to you. If you're only interested in learning things about the world that yields applications, to "help us" do things, then I've little to say, really. I personally think that there's much more to the world than just looking for ways to feed, shelter ourselves, and procreate, but you are certainly free to be only interested in those things.

Cheers,

-cvj</description>
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Progress at what? Assuming that one limits one’s calculations to the part of the universe that is inhabited by us, how does relativity help us with anything other than very high precision involving satellites?&#8221;
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<p>Progress in understanding how Nature works, plain and simple. If you wish to put your head in the sand and pretend that g is 10, and so forth that&#8217;s really up to you. If you&#8217;re only interested in learning things about the world that yields applications, to &#8220;help us&#8221; do things, then I&#8217;ve little to say, really. I personally think that there&#8217;s much more to the world than just looking for ways to feed, shelter ourselves, and procreate, but you are certainly free to be only interested in those things.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>-cvj</p>
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		<title>By: Lab Lemming</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2008/02/06/equivalence/#comment-108789</link>
		<dc:creator>Lab Lemming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 00:55:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"we realize that the entire idea of a “gravitational force” is clumsy, limiting, and inelegant for making progress."

Progress at what? Assuming that one limits one's calculations to the part of the universe that is inhabited by us, how does relativity help us with anything other than very high precision involving satellites?

In fact, we can further simplify Newtonian gravity by assuming that g=10m/s^2 (within about 10%) for the entire depth of the mantle*, because of the density structure of the Earth.  This, in turn, makes tthe math of mantle physics a lot simpler.

*Nobody aside from Omanis and French colonists lives on the mantle, but its dynamics control the habitability of the planet, so it is a useful thing to understand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;we realize that the entire idea of a “gravitational force” is clumsy, limiting, and inelegant for making progress.&#8221;</p>
<p>Progress at what? Assuming that one limits one&#8217;s calculations to the part of the universe that is inhabited by us, how does relativity help us with anything other than very high precision involving satellites?</p>
<p>In fact, we can further simplify Newtonian gravity by assuming that g=10m/s^2 (within about 10%) for the entire depth of the mantle*, because of the density structure of the Earth.  This, in turn, makes tthe math of mantle physics a lot simpler.</p>
<p>*Nobody aside from Omanis and French colonists lives on the mantle, but its dynamics control the habitability of the planet, so it is a useful thing to understand.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2008/02/06/equivalence/#comment-108284</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very nice, that's what I love about general relativity, and that's what bothers me the most about quantum theories assuming gravity to be particles acting over space-time.

The relativity and quantum views are so opposite of each other, it's no wonder why we struggle developing quantum gravity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very nice, that&#8217;s what I love about general relativity, and that&#8217;s what bothers me the most about quantum theories assuming gravity to be particles acting over space-time.</p>
<p>The relativity and quantum views are so opposite of each other, it&#8217;s no wonder why we struggle developing quantum gravity.</p>
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		<title>By: Clifford</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2008/02/06/equivalence/#comment-108280</link>
		<dc:creator>Clifford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, fly over!! (joking.)

Thanks,

-cvj</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, fly over!! (joking.)</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>-cvj</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2008/02/06/equivalence/#comment-108255</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 09:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently dropped a graduate-level general relativity course here at the University of Colorado.  Reading these posts about your class makes me wish I could attend.  I'm sure the subject would make much more sense than how it was being taught here, at least from the point of view of an undergrad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently dropped a graduate-level general relativity course here at the University of Colorado.  Reading these posts about your class makes me wish I could attend.  I&#8217;m sure the subject would make much more sense than how it was being taught here, at least from the point of view of an undergrad.</p>
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