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		<title>By: Carl Brannen</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2007/08/22/dark-puzzles/#comment-73285</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl Brannen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 20:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This reminds me of the recent puzzle in gravity waves. The E&#38;M astronomers saw a gamma ray burst that they concluded was near enough that gravity waves from it should be detected. The gravity wave groups looked, but no detection. They concluded that the cause of the burst had to be farther away, and its apparent location nearby was just a coincidence. The same effect could happen from the &lt;a href="http://carlbrannen.wordpress.com/2007/07/14/measuring-the-speed-of-gravity-waves/" rel="nofollow"&gt;speed of gravity&lt;/a&gt; being different from c.

Similarly here. If dark matter acts relativistically different from observable matter, for example, if it had a maximum speed different from c, then one can imagine a situation where in a steady state dark matter acts as expected, but in a collision, its behavior is outside expectations.

An example of this sort of split behavior is Newtonian gravity as compared to Einstein's gravity. Newton's gravity has a speed of infinity, Einstein gave it a speed of c. And yet both theories predict the same orbits in low velocity regimes far from the gravitating body.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This reminds me of the recent puzzle in gravity waves. The E&amp;M astronomers saw a gamma ray burst that they concluded was near enough that gravity waves from it should be detected. The gravity wave groups looked, but no detection. They concluded that the cause of the burst had to be farther away, and its apparent location nearby was just a coincidence. The same effect could happen from the <a href="http://carlbrannen.wordpress.com/2007/07/14/measuring-the-speed-of-gravity-waves/" rel="nofollow">speed of gravity</a> being different from c.</p>
<p>Similarly here. If dark matter acts relativistically different from observable matter, for example, if it had a maximum speed different from c, then one can imagine a situation where in a steady state dark matter acts as expected, but in a collision, its behavior is outside expectations.</p>
<p>An example of this sort of split behavior is Newtonian gravity as compared to Einstein&#8217;s gravity. Newton&#8217;s gravity has a speed of infinity, Einstein gave it a speed of c. And yet both theories predict the same orbits in low velocity regimes far from the gravitating body.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Fred</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2007/08/22/dark-puzzles/#comment-73161</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 05:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"A puzzle"  That's all it is? 

You know there is the Tully Fisher relation that states that a galaxy's luminosity is proportional to its highest orbital velocity raised to a power like 3 or 4. 

With the Tully Fisher relation we have galaxy's luminosity linked to its gravitational acceleration.  With Abel 520 group of clusters we have the hot luminous gas that is in between the clusters linked to the most amount of the gravitational lensing.   We could not have the hot gas in between the clusters being actually gravitationally attractive could we? No more than we could assume that the Tully Fisher relation means what it says it means? 

The fact that I can get as much as a &lt;a href="http://pbfred1.googlepages.com/11increase.PNG" rel="nofollow"&gt;11% change of weight &lt;/a&gt; with the "radial spreading of infrared luminosity" got to be due to some fault in my experimental methodology? Shouldn't it?

&lt;a href="http://pbfred1.googlepages.com/HangingHemi3.PNG" rel="nofollow"&gt;Here&lt;/a&gt; I shine 3500 W infrared radiation from twelve  250 watt  heating lamps on a large hollow, hanging aluminum hemisphere and get a 3% change of weight?

I have been trying for years to get someone to replicate my experiments so that they might be taken seriously.  Now, with much more expensive equipment than I can afford, a team of scientist, in a well publicized way, have inadvertently found a  means to confirm my experimental results. 

It is not the dark matter we are having trouble seeing.

It is what is &lt;a href="http://pbfred1.googlepages.com/centerofgalaxie.jpg" rel="nofollow"&gt;starring right in the face &lt;/a&gt; face that we are having trouble seeing.

Peter Fred


By the way the greatest amount of the dark matter is observed in the red around  &lt;a href="http://pbfred1.googlepages.com/cosmic3.JPG" rel="nofollow"&gt;peak (3)&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;A puzzle&#8221;  That&#8217;s all it is? </p>
<p>You know there is the Tully Fisher relation that states that a galaxy&#8217;s luminosity is proportional to its highest orbital velocity raised to a power like 3 or 4. </p>
<p>With the Tully Fisher relation we have galaxy&#8217;s luminosity linked to its gravitational acceleration.  With Abel 520 group of clusters we have the hot luminous gas that is in between the clusters linked to the most amount of the gravitational lensing.   We could not have the hot gas in between the clusters being actually gravitationally attractive could we? No more than we could assume that the Tully Fisher relation means what it says it means? </p>
<p>The fact that I can get as much as a <a href="http://pbfred1.googlepages.com/11increase.PNG" rel="nofollow">11% change of weight </a> with the &#8220;radial spreading of infrared luminosity&#8221; got to be due to some fault in my experimental methodology? Shouldn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p><a href="http://pbfred1.googlepages.com/HangingHemi3.PNG" rel="nofollow">Here</a> I shine 3500 W infrared radiation from twelve  250 watt  heating lamps on a large hollow, hanging aluminum hemisphere and get a 3% change of weight?</p>
<p>I have been trying for years to get someone to replicate my experiments so that they might be taken seriously.  Now, with much more expensive equipment than I can afford, a team of scientist, in a well publicized way, have inadvertently found a  means to confirm my experimental results. </p>
<p>It is not the dark matter we are having trouble seeing.</p>
<p>It is what is <a href="http://pbfred1.googlepages.com/centerofgalaxie.jpg" rel="nofollow">starring right in the face </a> face that we are having trouble seeing.</p>
<p>Peter Fred</p>
<p>By the way the greatest amount of the dark matter is observed in the red around  <a href="http://pbfred1.googlepages.com/cosmic3.JPG" rel="nofollow">peak (3)</a>.</p>
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