Comments on: Memorising Mingus http://asymptotia.com/2007/07/06/memorising-mingus/ Thu, 18 Mar 2010 00:34:55 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: Clifford http://asymptotia.com/2007/07/06/memorising-mingus/comment-page-1/#comment-61610 Clifford Sat, 07 Jul 2007 16:01:43 +0000 http://asymptotia.com/2007/07/06/memorising-mingus/#comment-61610 Thanks Joe, I think I agree with you on the heat issue being the source of everything. I don't know about the HD issue though. I've heard differing opinions...Lots of people seem to have had the memory failure, which generated a corruption which was then resolved by reinstalling. HD was fine. I'll see how it runs for a while, and maybe get a spare HD waiting in reserve. Yes, it does seem reasonably straightforward. And no, I never used it with just the 512 MB for any amount of time! Best, -cvj Thanks Joe,

I think I agree with you on the heat issue being the source of everything. I don’t know about the HD issue though. I’ve heard differing opinions…Lots of people seem to have had the memory failure, which generated a corruption which was then resolved by reinstalling. HD was fine. I’ll see how it runs for a while, and maybe get a spare HD waiting in reserve. Yes, it does seem reasonably straightforward. And no, I never used it with just the 512 MB for any amount of time!

Best,

-cvj

]]> By: joe http://asymptotia.com/2007/07/06/memorising-mingus/comment-page-1/#comment-61594 joe Sat, 07 Jul 2007 13:20:30 +0000 http://asymptotia.com/2007/07/06/memorising-mingus/#comment-61594 I just re-read your post, & realized you didn't replace your HD..you just erased it & re-installed the OS. Replace the HD immediately! (you should be able to do it yourself, there are probably tutorials on the Web with pics/instructions..Google search it) The lower memory-slot failure is NOT the reason for boot-up probles (as you implied), it's the HD. My HD died "suddenly"..no gray area like in your case. I just re-read your post, & realized you didn’t replace your HD..you just erased it & re-installed the OS. Replace the HD immediately! (you should be able to do it yourself, there are probably tutorials on the Web with pics/instructions..Google search it) The lower memory-slot failure is NOT the reason for boot-up probles (as you implied), it’s the HD. My HD died “suddenly”..no gray area like in your case.

]]> By: joe http://asymptotia.com/2007/07/06/memorising-mingus/comment-page-1/#comment-61592 joe Sat, 07 Jul 2007 12:52:44 +0000 http://asymptotia.com/2007/07/06/memorising-mingus/#comment-61592 I also have a Powerbook G4 1.5G (bought on 2/05), which has experienced A) lower memory slot failure B) failed disk drive. I experienced A) way back in late 2005, & like you was content with using 1G ram module (I used 2). Last Nov, my HD failed while I was on travel..very inconvenient! Would not boot up period (just "click click click" on bootup). Looks like I lost everything, the Mac technician wasn't able to recover it. I was under warranty (I bought an extended 1yr warranty from Good guys), so the repair was taken care of. On the lower-memory slot failure. The issue is HEAT.."heat is the enemy". Apple got too cute with the "cool thin form factor", & it simply can't dissipate heat adequately. Many complaints by users "My PB is so hot, I can't use it on my lap!". An engineering mistake..yes, this is a DEFECTIVE product! (that petition for class action lawsuit is well founded) The motherboard heats up, & causes the lower memory-slot failure. I think the HD failure is also related (due to heat, I heard 2 yrs is about what everyone is getting for HD MTBF). The story from people who had Apple fix their PBs (replacement of motherboard), was that the problem re-appeared shortly thereafter! (overheating). So, I had no interest in following this solution "fool me one, shame on Apple. fool me twice, shame on Me". Someone on the Apple Discussion thread mentioned Wegener Media, who did repairs for the <a href="http://www.wegenermedia.com/alumramslot.html" rel="nofollow">lower-memory slot issue</a>. Only $249, way less than the $800 for MB replacement by Apple. I sent it to Wegener earlier this year, & it was fixed (though they were tardy in keeping their target deadline)..I now have full 2G's memory. [ come on, how did you "live" with 512M of memory!!? ] They replace a chip on the MB, & apprently understand the issue better than Apple!!. the owner told me his PB had the same problem. Unfortunately, my Good Guys warranty didn't pay for the repair (even thought it was within 2 yrs of purchase), that's another bad story in itself. Your case sounds nearly identical to mine. Same PB (1.5G), same symptons (lower-memory slot failure & HD failure, timing is eerily similar). I heard if you complain hard enough, that Apple will repair your PB out of warranty. Maybe, you could get the to pickup the tab for the Wegener repair. Apple is a real pain to deal with on these issues, downright user-unfriendly. They claim to have superior products (beautiful industrial design, great useability/performance), but are arrogant as heck. Remember the infamous battery issue with iPods (you mentioned you were bitten by this)? Lesson: buy extended warranties (especially for Apple products) I also have a Powerbook G4 1.5G (bought on 2/05), which has experienced A) lower memory slot failure B) failed disk drive. I experienced A) way back in late 2005, & like you was content with using 1G ram module (I used 2). Last Nov, my HD failed while I was on travel..very inconvenient! Would not boot up period (just “click click click” on bootup). Looks like I lost everything, the Mac technician wasn’t able to recover it. I was under warranty (I bought an extended 1yr warranty from Good guys), so the repair was taken care of.

On the lower-memory slot failure. The issue is HEAT..”heat is the enemy”. Apple got too cute with the “cool thin form factor”, & it simply can’t dissipate heat adequately. Many complaints by users “My PB is so hot, I can’t use it on my lap!”. An engineering mistake..yes, this is a DEFECTIVE product! (that petition for class action lawsuit is well founded) The motherboard heats up, & causes the lower memory-slot failure. I think the HD failure is also related (due to heat, I heard 2 yrs is about what everyone is getting for HD MTBF).

The story from people who had Apple fix their PBs (replacement of motherboard), was that the problem re-appeared shortly thereafter! (overheating). So, I had no interest in following this solution “fool me one, shame on Apple. fool me twice, shame on Me”. Someone on the Apple Discussion thread mentioned Wegener Media, who did repairs for the lower-memory slot issue. Only $249, way less than the $800 for MB replacement by Apple. I sent it to Wegener earlier this year, & it was fixed (though they were tardy in keeping their target deadline)..I now have full 2G’s memory.

[ come on, how did you "live" with 512M of memory!!? ]

They replace a chip on the MB, & apprently understand the issue better than Apple!!. the owner told me his PB had the same problem. Unfortunately, my Good Guys warranty didn’t pay for the repair (even thought it was within 2 yrs of purchase), that’s another bad story in itself.

Your case sounds nearly identical to mine. Same PB (1.5G), same symptons (lower-memory slot failure & HD failure, timing is eerily similar). I heard if you complain hard enough, that Apple will repair your PB out of warranty. Maybe, you could get the to pickup the tab for the Wegener repair. Apple is a real pain to deal with on these issues, downright user-unfriendly. They claim to have superior products (beautiful industrial design, great useability/performance), but are arrogant as heck. Remember the infamous battery issue with iPods (you mentioned you were bitten by this)? Lesson: buy extended warranties (especially for Apple products)

]]> By: Clifford http://asymptotia.com/2007/07/06/memorising-mingus/comment-page-1/#comment-61353 Clifford Fri, 06 Jul 2007 15:34:34 +0000 http://asymptotia.com/2007/07/06/memorising-mingus/#comment-61353 Actually, I did not know that. Thanks for letting me know. Sad to hear he's gone. What he thought of Tony Blair is probably unprintable here. -cvj Actually, I did not know that. Thanks for letting me know. Sad to hear he’s gone. What he thought of Tony Blair is probably unprintable here.

-cvj

]]> By: pedant http://asymptotia.com/2007/07/06/memorising-mingus/comment-page-1/#comment-61307 pedant Fri, 06 Jul 2007 11:31:16 +0000 http://asymptotia.com/2007/07/06/memorising-mingus/#comment-61307 And there I was, hoping for a bit of jazz. As an ex(ish)- pat Brit you might have noticed the passing of George Melly. While he was neither Bessie Smith nor Mingus, he was, probably, on the side of the angels, and did a lot to inject a 'revolt into style' into the cracks in the Establishment that started to appear in the sixties. What must he have made of Tony Blair? And there I was, hoping for a bit of jazz. As an ex(ish)- pat Brit you might have noticed the passing of George Melly. While he was neither Bessie Smith nor Mingus, he was, probably, on the side of the angels, and did a lot to inject a ‘revolt into style’ into the cracks in the Establishment that started to appear in the sixties. What must he have made of Tony Blair?

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