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		<title>By: Plato</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2007/04/06/mexican-superlattices/comment-page-1/#comment-37430</link>
		<dc:creator>Plato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Apr 2007 14:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I tried to look for some comparative feature on a small scale that might be associated to the cave construction and immediately thought of the geoids and &quot;the condition&quot; that would have formed, while &quot;the environment was trapped&quot; in the earth, while cooling.

Finding these kinds of stones and cutting them in half reveals some amazing crystalline structures. This used to be part of our &quot;family outing&quot; going through gravel pits looking for agates, and other stones. We would use the &quot;sunlight for discovery&quot; to capture them.

Refractive indexes?

 I&#039;ll have to show picture on my blog of the collection in the future,  as well as other crystals that I had acquired.

This does provide a further thoughts on &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_geodesy&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Physical geodesy&lt;/a&gt;?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried to look for some comparative feature on a small scale that might be associated to the cave construction and immediately thought of the geoids and &#8220;the condition&#8221; that would have formed, while &#8220;the environment was trapped&#8221; in the earth, while cooling.</p>
<p>Finding these kinds of stones and cutting them in half reveals some amazing crystalline structures. This used to be part of our &#8220;family outing&#8221; going through gravel pits looking for agates, and other stones. We would use the &#8220;sunlight for discovery&#8221; to capture them.</p>
<p>Refractive indexes?</p>
<p> I&#8217;ll have to show picture on my blog of the collection in the future,  as well as other crystals that I had acquired.</p>
<p>This does provide a further thoughts on <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_geodesy" rel="nofollow">Physical geodesy</a>?</p>
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		<title>By: Clifford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clifford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Apr 2007 02:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[pedant:- no, I never did that... sounds like fun indeed...

JAI, spyder:- Wow! You&#039;re right! They&#039;ve found Superman&#039;s Fortress of Solitude! (Why did I not see that?) It&#039;s in Mexico and not at the North Pole.. of course. Or maybe it is Bizarro&#039;s. 

Carl.... thanks for the tips! Everyone: - get to work!

Cheers,

-cvj]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pedant:- no, I never did that&#8230; sounds like fun indeed&#8230;</p>
<p>JAI, spyder:- Wow! You&#8217;re right! They&#8217;ve found Superman&#8217;s Fortress of Solitude! (Why did I not see that?) It&#8217;s in Mexico and not at the North Pole.. of course. Or maybe it is Bizarro&#8217;s. </p>
<p>Carl&#8230;. thanks for the tips! Everyone: &#8211; get to work!</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>-cvj</p>
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		<title>By: Carl Brannen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl Brannen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2007 19:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you&#039;ve got kids growing crystals, there is an interesting experiment you can try that should allow you to make unique crystals.  The logic is as follows:

The planes of a crystal are defined by the directions that the crystal grows the most slowly.  Directions in which a crystal grows quickly are eliminated in favor of other directions.

So if one grinds a crystal down to a spherical shape, and then uses that as a seed to grow larger, the sphere will change from a very complicated collection of faces to a more simple set of faces as the faster growing face directions grab material from solution.  A sphere is a collection of an infinite number of faces, more or less.

The mineralogists classify crystals into &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_group&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;230 space groups&lt;/a&gt;.  If you ignore the details of finite translations (which are impossible for the eye to detect but are easily detected in x-ray crystallography), these 230 fall into &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_system#Crystallographic_point_group&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;32 point groups.&lt;/a&gt;

If there are enough faces, and there is not a serious degeneracy (for example a pseudocubic crystal), then one can determine the crystal point group by carefully examining a sufficiently complex crystal.  Consequently, one should be able to determine the point group of a crystal by cutting out a sphere and letting it only partially regrow to its usual form.

A good example is salt or &lt;a href=&quot;http://webmineral.com/data/Halite.shtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;halite&lt;/a&gt;.  Salt normally grows in cubes which could be any symmetry in the cubic system.  But if a sphere were cut from salt and allowed to regrow a little, it should exhibit the hexoctahedral class, which means that one should be able to find crystal faces that exhibit a symmetry group of 48 faces.  These are the hexoctahedral faces.

There are very few crystals that exhibit hexoctahedral faces.  I&#039;ll put some photos of one up on the web of &lt;a href=&quot;http://webmineral.com/data/Fluorite.shtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;fluorite&lt;/a&gt; growing in this fom if there is any interest.

All the various crystal growing materials should work with this method.  With salt, I would try grinding out an approximate sphere, then washing it in water to dissolve microcrystals on the surface, then putting it in a slightly dissolving medium, and then slowly reducing the temperature so that the medium begins coming out of solution.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;ve got kids growing crystals, there is an interesting experiment you can try that should allow you to make unique crystals.  The logic is as follows:</p>
<p>The planes of a crystal are defined by the directions that the crystal grows the most slowly.  Directions in which a crystal grows quickly are eliminated in favor of other directions.</p>
<p>So if one grinds a crystal down to a spherical shape, and then uses that as a seed to grow larger, the sphere will change from a very complicated collection of faces to a more simple set of faces as the faster growing face directions grab material from solution.  A sphere is a collection of an infinite number of faces, more or less.</p>
<p>The mineralogists classify crystals into <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_group" rel="nofollow">230 space groups</a>.  If you ignore the details of finite translations (which are impossible for the eye to detect but are easily detected in x-ray crystallography), these 230 fall into <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_system#Crystallographic_point_group" rel="nofollow">32 point groups.</a></p>
<p>If there are enough faces, and there is not a serious degeneracy (for example a pseudocubic crystal), then one can determine the crystal point group by carefully examining a sufficiently complex crystal.  Consequently, one should be able to determine the point group of a crystal by cutting out a sphere and letting it only partially regrow to its usual form.</p>
<p>A good example is salt or <a href="http://webmineral.com/data/Halite.shtml" rel="nofollow">halite</a>.  Salt normally grows in cubes which could be any symmetry in the cubic system.  But if a sphere were cut from salt and allowed to regrow a little, it should exhibit the hexoctahedral class, which means that one should be able to find crystal faces that exhibit a symmetry group of 48 faces.  These are the hexoctahedral faces.</p>
<p>There are very few crystals that exhibit hexoctahedral faces.  I&#8217;ll put some photos of one up on the web of <a href="http://webmineral.com/data/Fluorite.shtml" rel="nofollow">fluorite</a> growing in this fom if there is any interest.</p>
<p>All the various crystal growing materials should work with this method.  With salt, I would try grinding out an approximate sphere, then washing it in water to dissolve microcrystals on the surface, then putting it in a slightly dissolving medium, and then slowly reducing the temperature so that the medium begins coming out of solution.</p>
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		<title>By: spyder</title>
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		<dc:creator>spyder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2007 18:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[First, i only saw the upper half of the window, and thus thought the crystals were just a close up image.  Scrolling down i realized they were huge, and quite stunning.  My next thought was to look closer to see if this was a photoshopped sort of prank, but the accompanying website supported the reality.  I&#039;m also with JustAnotherInfidel in that they look like a movie set: Journey to the Center of the Earth, 20000 Leagues Under the Sea, or maybe a new episode of the Fantastic Four????]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, i only saw the upper half of the window, and thus thought the crystals were just a close up image.  Scrolling down i realized they were huge, and quite stunning.  My next thought was to look closer to see if this was a photoshopped sort of prank, but the accompanying website supported the reality.  I&#8217;m also with JustAnotherInfidel in that they look like a movie set: Journey to the Center of the Earth, 20000 Leagues Under the Sea, or maybe a new episode of the Fantastic Four????</p>
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		<title>By: JustAnotherInfidel</title>
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		<dc:creator>JustAnotherInfidel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2007 18:22:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Looks like Superman&#039;s Fortress of Solitude.

http://z.about.com/d/comicbooks/1/0/b/6/55.jpg]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like Superman&#8217;s Fortress of Solitude.</p>
<p><a href="http://z.about.com/d/comicbooks/1/0/b/6/55.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://z.about.com/d/comicbooks/1/0/b/6/55.jpg</a></p>
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		<title>By: pedant</title>
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		<dc:creator>pedant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2007 17:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow. Impressive or what. And you&#039;re right about crystal growing for kids and others. It&#039;s a lot of fun. Did you ever make a silicate garden,  from crystals of copper, iron an dother salts dropped into water glass, used back then for preserving eggs? WHat fun it was]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. Impressive or what. And you&#8217;re right about crystal growing for kids and others. It&#8217;s a lot of fun. Did you ever make a silicate garden,  from crystals of copper, iron an dother salts dropped into water glass, used back then for preserving eggs? WHat fun it was</p>
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