Comments on: RoboCup http://asymptotia.com/2007/03/22/robocup/ Fri, 21 Nov 2008 06:22:30 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: NimbRo http://asymptotia.com/2007/03/22/robocup/#comment-46711 NimbRo Mon, 21 May 2007 14:56:28 +0000 http://asymptotia.com/2007/03/22/robocup/#comment-46711 Here is one more video that shows the NimbRo Humanoid Soccer Robots at German Open 2007. Here is one more video that shows the NimbRo Humanoid Soccer Robots at German Open 2007.

]]> By: Amara http://asymptotia.com/2007/03/22/robocup/#comment-34534 Amara Fri, 23 Mar 2007 09:25:37 +0000 http://asymptotia.com/2007/03/22/robocup/#comment-34534 <a href="http://www.newscientisttech.com/article/dn11434?DCMP=Matt_Sparkes&nsref=dance" rel="nofollow">New Scientist</a> has a recent report on robots that are capable of detecting rhythm. The article says that robots are going to have to have a sense of rhythm in order for people to feel comfortable interacting with them. This cute (perfect for kids) <a href="http://univ.nict.go.jp/people/xkozima/infanoid/video/keepon-contact-joint.mpg" rel="nofollow">video</a> shows such an example. New Scientist has a recent report on robots that are capable of detecting rhythm. The article says that robots are going to have to have a sense of rhythm in order for people to feel comfortable interacting with them. This cute (perfect for kids) video shows such an example.

]]> By: TBB http://asymptotia.com/2007/03/22/robocup/#comment-34468 TBB Thu, 22 Mar 2007 23:12:28 +0000 http://asymptotia.com/2007/03/22/robocup/#comment-34468 The first video is especially funny; I was chuckling over the clueless goalies, but the last goalie in that one was priceless - huge laugh there. :-) I have to say that I was impressed that the robot who fell on his face got himself (itself?) back on his feet fairly well. The ones who fall on their backs seem to be akin to turtles on their backs and have to rock to get up. Good stuff, thanks! I was reading this guy's funny tours of <a href="http://davidszondy.com/future/futurepast.htm" rel="nofollow">vintage robots in sci-fi</a> last night, so your post was timely. (He <i>does</i> take down Asimov's writing style and 3 Laws...), but the old magazine covers are great, and good for punchy laughs. BTW, this was brought to my attention in Jan 2005 with this article: http://news.scotsman.com/scitech.cfm?id=26542005 The first video is especially funny; I was chuckling over the clueless goalies, but the last goalie in that one was priceless - huge laugh there. :-)

I have to say that I was impressed that the robot who fell on his face got himself (itself?) back on his feet fairly well. The ones who fall on their backs seem to be akin to turtles on their backs and have to rock to get up. Good stuff, thanks! I was reading this guy’s funny tours of vintage robots in sci-fi last night, so your post was timely. (He does take down Asimov’s writing style and 3 Laws…), but the old magazine covers are great, and good for punchy laughs.

BTW, this was brought to my attention in Jan 2005 with this article: http://news.scotsman.com/scitech.cfm?id=26542005

]]> By: Amara http://asymptotia.com/2007/03/22/robocup/#comment-34463 Amara Thu, 22 Mar 2007 22:20:46 +0000 http://asymptotia.com/2007/03/22/robocup/#comment-34463 And there's alot of interesting <a href="http://www.robots-dreams.com/" rel="nofollow">robot info here</a> too. And there’s alot of interesting robot info here too.

]]> By: Amara http://asymptotia.com/2007/03/22/robocup/#comment-34460 Amara Thu, 22 Mar 2007 22:11:56 +0000 http://asymptotia.com/2007/03/22/robocup/#comment-34460 Thanks for your answer, Clifford, and thank you Ambitwister for the Robot Dogs! They are hilarious. It seems that Youtube is full of interesting RoboCup videos. These <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGKt5QafFLM&mode=related&search=" rel="nofollow">Robot Dogs</a> are competing in an earlier tournament. You can also see what is the <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=so9axknlftk&mode=related&search=" rel="nofollow">output of the camera</a> that feeds into the robot's decision tree. And here is a view, from the human perspective, of the RoboCup tournament <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMd_tKLW_AY&mode=related&search=" rel="nofollow">8 years ago</a>. The Robocup's goal of having an autonomous robot by 2050 doesn't seem difficult to reach at this rate of improvement. Thanks for your answer, Clifford, and thank you Ambitwister for the Robot Dogs! They are hilarious. It seems that Youtube is full of interesting RoboCup videos. These Robot Dogs are competing in an earlier tournament. You can also see what is the output of the camera that feeds into the robot’s decision tree. And here is a view, from the human perspective, of the RoboCup tournament 8 years ago.

The Robocup’s goal of having an autonomous robot by 2050 doesn’t seem difficult to reach at this rate of improvement.

]]> By: Clifford http://asymptotia.com/2007/03/22/robocup/#comment-34452 Clifford Thu, 22 Mar 2007 20:00:12 +0000 http://asymptotia.com/2007/03/22/robocup/#comment-34452 HI, No, I don't know, but my impression from things I've read is that they are supposed to be pretty autonomous. They are not remote controlled toys (which would not be so impressive) but make simple decisions depending upon aspects of their surroundings, including (apparently) the state of play of the game (e.g. "should I be defensive or offensive?"), where the other players are (they can decide to pass the ball, it is said, although there was not much evidence in the video clips I saw), and where the ball is. It is rather impressive. They seem to crash a lot though... you see a lot of them just standing there, presumably confused, and then someone yanks them off the field. I'm guessing that there are some readers who might know something about these particular robots (I don't, really), who might fill us in some more. Cheers, -cvj HI,

No, I don’t know, but my impression from things I’ve read is that they are supposed to be pretty autonomous. They are not remote controlled toys (which would not be so impressive) but make simple decisions depending upon aspects of their surroundings, including (apparently) the state of play of the game (e.g. “should I be defensive or offensive?”), where the other players are (they can decide to pass the ball, it is said, although there was not much evidence in the video clips I saw), and where the ball is. It is rather impressive. They seem to crash a lot though… you see a lot of them just standing there, presumably confused, and then someone yanks them off the field.

I’m guessing that there are some readers who might know something about these particular robots (I don’t, really), who might fill us in some more.

Cheers,

-cvj

]]> By: Amara http://asymptotia.com/2007/03/22/robocup/#comment-34450 Amara Thu, 22 Mar 2007 19:45:14 +0000 http://asymptotia.com/2007/03/22/robocup/#comment-34450 Clifford, do you know how much of the robots are controlled in realtime, and how much of their movements are preprogrammed? I really liked the 'show', whatever the percentage, however. Fun! Thanks for sharing that. <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTCRw7lYpu4&mode=related&search=" rel="nofollow">SRL</a> is still going strong, spyder. Some day I hope to see them live too. Clifford, do you know how much of the robots are controlled in realtime, and how much of their movements are preprogrammed? I really liked the ’show’, whatever the percentage, however. Fun! Thanks for sharing that.

SRL is still going strong, spyder. Some day I hope to see them live too.

]]> By: Anon http://asymptotia.com/2007/03/22/robocup/#comment-34449 Anon Thu, 22 Mar 2007 19:34:49 +0000 http://asymptotia.com/2007/03/22/robocup/#comment-34449 That was hilarious. I actually laughed aloud. That was hilarious. I actually laughed aloud.

]]> By: spyder http://asymptotia.com/2007/03/22/robocup/#comment-34444 spyder Thu, 22 Mar 2007 18:38:47 +0000 http://asymptotia.com/2007/03/22/robocup/#comment-34444 At least a decade ago there was a (albeit human controlled) robot rugby tournament at the Burning Man Festival. Those brainy guys from Survival Research Labs, and Stanford's various computer/AI/tech programs, put together quite a vision, ending with flaming (literally) attacks on opposing players and such. This latest iteration is showing how the entire field of robotics is mashing forward, quickly and expressively. It is really a bit WOW! At least a decade ago there was a (albeit human controlled) robot rugby tournament at the Burning Man Festival. Those brainy guys from Survival Research Labs, and Stanford’s various computer/AI/tech programs, put together quite a vision, ending with flaming (literally) attacks on opposing players and such. This latest iteration is showing how the entire field of robotics is mashing forward, quickly and expressively. It is really a bit WOW!

]]> By: Mary Cole http://asymptotia.com/2007/03/22/robocup/#comment-34418 Mary Cole Thu, 22 Mar 2007 15:33:21 +0000 http://asymptotia.com/2007/03/22/robocup/#comment-34418 I think this is much more entertaining than real football, and the robots don't seem to spit, or argue with the referee either! I think this is much more entertaining than real football, and the robots don’t seem to spit, or argue with the referee either!

]]> By: Ambitwistor http://asymptotia.com/2007/03/22/robocup/#comment-34402 Ambitwistor Thu, 22 Mar 2007 13:44:23 +0000 http://asymptotia.com/2007/03/22/robocup/#comment-34402 If you liked robot people playing football, you should check out <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfJ_M0EOtXM" rel="nofollow">robot dogs playing football</a>. If you liked robot people playing football, you should check out robot dogs playing football.

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