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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2007/02/06/space-opera/#comment-29355</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 22:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nowak is probably snapped. She should be seeing a doctor rather than being prosecuted. On the other hand, Shipman, the other woman, can hardly be blamed. She did not know Nowak at the time. She did what she, or anybody else, should do and has to do when she was attacked by a stranger. It is indeed a sad story for NASA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nowak is probably snapped. She should be seeing a doctor rather than being prosecuted. On the other hand, Shipman, the other woman, can hardly be blamed. She did not know Nowak at the time. She did what she, or anybody else, should do and has to do when she was attacked by a stranger. It is indeed a sad story for NASA.</p>
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		<title>By: Ralph R.</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2007/02/06/space-opera/#comment-29329</link>
		<dc:creator>Ralph R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 16:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I missed most of the news on this story (was working in Asia).  Just now getting around to reading about the asternaut love thing.

I feel sorry for Nowak, her family and Oefelein's kids.  The other woman (Shipman) surly could have handled this different.  There was every avenue she could have gone through with the Air Force, Navy and NASA that would have saved all the bad publicity for all concerned.  As it is, so many lives devastated because of all the publicity.  It's no surprise the local police are relishing in such a high profile arrest.  With Nowak's background and training it's clear she just snapped and I doubt it was all about Oefelein.  Too bad this all happened it's a black mark against NASA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I missed most of the news on this story (was working in Asia).  Just now getting around to reading about the asternaut love thing.</p>
<p>I feel sorry for Nowak, her family and Oefelein&#8217;s kids.  The other woman (Shipman) surly could have handled this different.  There was every avenue she could have gone through with the Air Force, Navy and NASA that would have saved all the bad publicity for all concerned.  As it is, so many lives devastated because of all the publicity.  It&#8217;s no surprise the local police are relishing in such a high profile arrest.  With Nowak&#8217;s background and training it&#8217;s clear she just snapped and I doubt it was all about Oefelein.  Too bad this all happened it&#8217;s a black mark against NASA.</p>
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		<title>By: Clifford</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2007/02/06/space-opera/#comment-27968</link>
		<dc:creator>Clifford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 01:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill,

Thanks. That's a very informative and valuable comment. I  wish you all the very best, and I am also hoping (as other commenters have said) that she gets the right treatment instead of just being treated like a criminal.

Best Wishes,

-cvj</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill,</p>
<p>Thanks. That&#8217;s a very informative and valuable comment. I  wish you all the very best, and I am also hoping (as other commenters have said) that she gets the right treatment instead of just being treated like a criminal.</p>
<p>Best Wishes,</p>
<p>-cvj</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2007/02/06/space-opera/#comment-27964</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 00:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm 62 and got hit with a full blown manic/psychotic episode about 2 years ago and ended up in a psychiatric hospital for a very long week's visit. I had never experienced mania before, and there is no family history of bipolar.  I've suffered from depression most of my adult life, and was under a lot of stress at the time. But what kicked me into orbit was too high a dose of an anti-depressant notorious for causing mania (Effexor, but there are others). It's effective in boosting mood for many, but it can push you from depression, right through the mood midline, into hypomania, and on to a full manic episode. It's not common, but there are a lot of people who've been down this rocky path.

My guess is the same thing happened to the astronaut, and time will tell as the case unfolds. It's a devastating experience and _everything_ in your life changes. She may be faced with an extended bout of painful deep depression if my experience is any indication. Fortunately, I didn't engage in criminal, promiscuous or dangerous behavior as do many manics. Her behavior is bizarre and completely out of character, but when manic anything this possible. Take my word for it.

BTW - I'm largely recovered and my life is getting back on track thanks to my (new) medicating psych, my loving wife and family, and several other key people such as my experienced and wise therapist. Without my support system, I don't know where I'd be now, or even if I'd be.

My thoughts and prayers go out to her and her family and friends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m 62 and got hit with a full blown manic/psychotic episode about 2 years ago and ended up in a psychiatric hospital for a very long week&#8217;s visit. I had never experienced mania before, and there is no family history of bipolar.  I&#8217;ve suffered from depression most of my adult life, and was under a lot of stress at the time. But what kicked me into orbit was too high a dose of an anti-depressant notorious for causing mania (Effexor, but there are others). It&#8217;s effective in boosting mood for many, but it can push you from depression, right through the mood midline, into hypomania, and on to a full manic episode. It&#8217;s not common, but there are a lot of people who&#8217;ve been down this rocky path.</p>
<p>My guess is the same thing happened to the astronaut, and time will tell as the case unfolds. It&#8217;s a devastating experience and _everything_ in your life changes. She may be faced with an extended bout of painful deep depression if my experience is any indication. Fortunately, I didn&#8217;t engage in criminal, promiscuous or dangerous behavior as do many manics. Her behavior is bizarre and completely out of character, but when manic anything this possible. Take my word for it.</p>
<p>BTW - I&#8217;m largely recovered and my life is getting back on track thanks to my (new) medicating psych, my loving wife and family, and several other key people such as my experienced and wise therapist. Without my support system, I don&#8217;t know where I&#8217;d be now, or even if I&#8217;d be.</p>
<p>My thoughts and prayers go out to her and her family and friends.</p>
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		<title>By: donna</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2007/02/06/space-opera/#comment-27455</link>
		<dc:creator>donna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 17:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I have bipolar disorder and was misdiagnosed with depression for years. I never had a manic episode until 5 years ago, and that was the only one I've ever had.

I suspect it's the same for her - the description of her obsession and the manic behavior are just classic bipolar mania, though. 

Sometimes there is just no way to tell until something happens. I think family history is important though - my sister and nephew have bipolar disorder too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I have bipolar disorder and was misdiagnosed with depression for years. I never had a manic episode until 5 years ago, and that was the only one I&#8217;ve ever had.</p>
<p>I suspect it&#8217;s the same for her - the description of her obsession and the manic behavior are just classic bipolar mania, though. </p>
<p>Sometimes there is just no way to tell until something happens. I think family history is important though - my sister and nephew have bipolar disorder too.</p>
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		<title>By: Yvette</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2007/02/06/space-opera/#comment-27267</link>
		<dc:creator>Yvette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 06:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interestingly, I was bored one day and wrote her Wikipedia article (as well as the one for William Oefelein).  No one ever touched it (typical for the random astronaut bios), but all of a sudden yesterday they exploded and that's how I heard what happened.

Anyway, poor woman.  I hope she'll get whatever help it is she needs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interestingly, I was bored one day and wrote her Wikipedia article (as well as the one for William Oefelein).  No one ever touched it (typical for the random astronaut bios), but all of a sudden yesterday they exploded and that&#8217;s how I heard what happened.</p>
<p>Anyway, poor woman.  I hope she&#8217;ll get whatever help it is she needs.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2007/02/06/space-opera/#comment-27259</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 04:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that you've nailed the "newsworthiness" aspect of this story - if she wasn't an astronaut, who would care?  It's all about the contrast with the "right stuff" image that NASA still likes to portray.  That and the big nappy, obviously.

Anyway, it's a sad story and by all accounts very out of character, suggesting a recent mental breakdown of some sort.  I hope it all works out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that you&#8217;ve nailed the &#8220;newsworthiness&#8221; aspect of this story - if she wasn&#8217;t an astronaut, who would care?  It&#8217;s all about the contrast with the &#8220;right stuff&#8221; image that NASA still likes to portray.  That and the big nappy, obviously.</p>
<p>Anyway, it&#8217;s a sad story and by all accounts very out of character, suggesting a recent mental breakdown of some sort.  I hope it all works out.</p>
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		<title>By: Jude</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2007/02/06/space-opera/#comment-27242</link>
		<dc:creator>Jude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 01:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read the blog of a guy who went to Antarctica as an employer for Raytheon.  Even though he's undergone psychiatric evaluations before, they make them go through a new psychiatric evaluation before each trip.  That seemed excessive to me before, but now maybe it makes sense.  (He posted some of the questions on his blog back in September--it's at http://bigblueglobe.blogspot.com/2006/08/crazy-is-as-crazy-does.html)

My daughter is bipolar--in my experience you can't hide it either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read the blog of a guy who went to Antarctica as an employer for Raytheon.  Even though he&#8217;s undergone psychiatric evaluations before, they make them go through a new psychiatric evaluation before each trip.  That seemed excessive to me before, but now maybe it makes sense.  (He posted some of the questions on his blog back in September&#8211;it&#8217;s at <a href="http://bigblueglobe.blogspot.com/2006/08/crazy-is-as-crazy-does.html" rel="nofollow">http://bigblueglobe.blogspot.com/2006/08/crazy-is-as-crazy-does.html</a>)</p>
<p>My daughter is bipolar&#8211;in my experience you can&#8217;t hide it either.</p>
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		<title>By: JoanH</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2007/02/06/space-opera/#comment-27218</link>
		<dc:creator>JoanH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 21:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Donna -  that was my assumption too, although it is odd that NASA didn't pick that up either in their initial screening procedure or in the continued psychological evaluation that you would presume they have while in the astronaut program.

In my (limited) experience, bipolar disorder is very difficult to hide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Donna -  that was my assumption too, although it is odd that NASA didn&#8217;t pick that up either in their initial screening procedure or in the continued psychological evaluation that you would presume they have while in the astronaut program.</p>
<p>In my (limited) experience, bipolar disorder is very difficult to hide.</p>
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		<title>By: donna</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2007/02/06/space-opera/#comment-27203</link>
		<dc:creator>donna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 17:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think she's most likely suffering from bipolar disorder and needs professional mental help and some time in the psych ward. 

Too bad they throw her in jail instead where she can't get the help she needs. But that's probably true for oh, three quarters of the prison population.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think she&#8217;s most likely suffering from bipolar disorder and needs professional mental help and some time in the psych ward. </p>
<p>Too bad they throw her in jail instead where she can&#8217;t get the help she needs. But that&#8217;s probably true for oh, three quarters of the prison population.</p>
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		<title>By: mollishka</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2007/02/06/space-opera/#comment-27161</link>
		<dc:creator>mollishka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 03:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No!!  It's equality between the sexes!  Look, women can be astronauts, too!  Look, women can be dangerous jealous crazies, too!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No!!  It&#8217;s equality between the sexes!  Look, women can be astronauts, too!  Look, women can be dangerous jealous crazies, too!</p>
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		<title>By: Melquiades</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2007/02/06/space-opera/#comment-27159</link>
		<dc:creator>Melquiades</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 03:16:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phew! For a second I thought this post was about another type of &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_opera_in_Scientology_doctrine" rel="nofollow"&gt;space opera&lt;/a&gt;.

It is very sad, because I can see some people saying "that is why women should not be in this or that position, they get to emotional and go nuts".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phew! For a second I thought this post was about another type of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_opera_in_Scientology_doctrine" rel="nofollow">space opera</a>.</p>
<p>It is very sad, because I can see some people saying &#8220;that is why women should not be in this or that position, they get to emotional and go nuts&#8221;.</p>
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