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		<title>By: Inside Out from the Inside - Asymptotia</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2007/01/28/looking-ahead-to-tomorrow/#comment-85699</link>
		<dc:creator>Inside Out from the Inside - Asymptotia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 05:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The evening ended with some questions and answers and also comments. This included, in addition to questions and comments from the audience, the sharing and exchanging of ideas between the different presenters (I&#8217;ve given examples above). I also added a comment about the work of Charles F. Stevens (I&#8217;ve talked about it here before) in response to a comment and a question about connecting the worlds of biology and mathematics in this context - his work on quantifying and modeling aspects of the architecture of our brains and making sense of (for example) the structure of the visual cortex in terms of the tasks it must perform (forming an accurate representation or map of the visual world) seemed relevant. (See references at this page by scrolling down.) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The evening ended with some questions and answers and also comments. This included, in addition to questions and comments from the audience, the sharing and exchanging of ideas between the different presenters (I&#8217;ve given examples above). I also added a comment about the work of Charles F. Stevens (I&#8217;ve talked about it here before) in response to a comment and a question about connecting the worlds of biology and mathematics in this context - his work on quantifying and modeling aspects of the architecture of our brains and making sense of (for example) the structure of the visual cortex in terms of the tasks it must perform (forming an accurate representation or map of the visual world) seemed relevant. (See references at this page by scrolling down.) [...]</p>
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		<dc:creator>- Asymptotia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 15:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Chuck Stevens&#8217; visit went very well indeed. The talk was excellent, and well attended by faculty and students from both Physics and Astronomy Department, and the Neurosciences Research Institute. I&#8217;ll tell you a bit more about what he said in a subsequent post, along with pointing to video and slides from the talk, I hope. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Chuck Stevens&#8217; visit went very well indeed. The talk was excellent, and well attended by faculty and students from both Physics and Astronomy Department, and the Neurosciences Research Institute. I&#8217;ll tell you a bit more about what he said in a subsequent post, along with pointing to video and slides from the talk, I hope. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Carl Brannen</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2007/01/28/looking-ahead-to-tomorrow/#comment-26161</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl Brannen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 05:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should write down here the operator solution for the general electron and or positron state.  I will use the "hat" language used in Clifford algebra where the Dirac vectors are replaced by [tex]\gamma_0 \to \hat{t},\;\; \gamma_1 \to \hat{x},\;\; \gamma_2 \to \hat{y},\;\; \gamma_3 \to \hat{z}. [/tex]  The reason for the substitution is that the hat notation is obviously geometric, and requires less space.

Okay, an electron or positron has spin in some direction defined by a unit vector.  The operator for spin 1/2 in the Dirac algebra in the [tex](a_x,a_y,a_z)[/tex] direction is:

[tex]\hat{a} = i\hat{x}\hat{y}\hat{z}(a_x\hat{x}+a_y\hat{y} + a_z\hat{z})[/tex]

The projection operator for the state with spin +1/2 in the [tex]\vec{a}[/tex] direction is therefore:

[tex](1+\hat{a})/2[/tex]

To distinguish between electron and positron I need a "charge" operator.  Peskin &#38; Schroeder use [tex]Q = \hat{t}[/tex], and the projection operator for this is [tex](1\pm \hat{t})/2[/tex]

Therefore, the complete solution for the density operator (qubit) representation of an electron / positron is the product of these two (commuting) projection operators:

[tex](1 + i\hat{x}\hat{y}\hat{z}(a_x\hat{x}+a_y\hat{y} + a_z\hat{z}))(1\pm \hat{t})/4[/tex]

where the P&#38;S convention is that the + sign gives the electron and - sign gives the positron.  To translate this into the usual (inelegant) spinor notation, one chooses a representation for the operators, and computes the matrix equivalent:

[tex]\frac{1}{4}\left(\begin{array}{cccc}
1+a_z&#38;a_x-ia_y&#38;\pm(1+a_z)&#38;\pm(a_x-ia_y)\\
a_x+ia_y&#38;1-a_z&#38;\pm(a_x+ia_y)&#38;\pm(1-a_z)\\
\pm(1+a_z)&#38;\pm(a_x-ia_y)&#38;1+a_z&#38;a_x-ia_y\\
\pm(a_x+ia_y)&#38;\pm(1-a_z)&#38;a_x+ia_y&#38;1-a_z\end{array}\right)[/tex]

The spinor is any non zero column of the above matrix.  For the particular example that P&#38;S slaves over, [tex]\vec{a} = (0,0,1)[/tex] and the resulting spinor is (1,0,1,0), which is what one obtains as a special case above (times 1/2).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should write down here the operator solution for the general electron and or positron state.  I will use the &#8220;hat&#8221; language used in Clifford algebra where the Dirac vectors are replaced by <img src='http://asymptotia.com/mimetex/pictures/0b00e9bc5ac78e1f79e5c03c4128c40c.gif' title='\gamma_0 \to \hat{t},\;\; \gamma_1 \to \hat{x},\;\; \gamma_2 \to \hat{y},\;\; \gamma_3 \to \hat{z}. ' alt='\gamma_0 \to \hat{t},\;\; \gamma_1 \to \hat{x},\;\; \gamma_2 \to \hat{y},\;\; \gamma_3 \to \hat{z}. ' align=absmiddle/>  The reason for the substitution is that the hat notation is obviously geometric, and requires less space.</p>
<p>Okay, an electron or positron has spin in some direction defined by a unit vector.  The operator for spin 1/2 in the Dirac algebra in the <img src='http://asymptotia.com/mimetex/pictures/efe985f05eb2abb183bfdaf78062095e.gif' title='(a_x,a_y,a_z)' alt='(a_x,a_y,a_z)' align=absmiddle/> direction is:</p>
<p><img src='http://asymptotia.com/mimetex/pictures/06b4825341847157939b0cb96a70d75e.gif' title='\hat{a} = i\hat{x}\hat{y}\hat{z}(a_x\hat{x}+a_y\hat{y} + a_z\hat{z})' alt='\hat{a} = i\hat{x}\hat{y}\hat{z}(a_x\hat{x}+a_y\hat{y} + a_z\hat{z})' align=absmiddle/></p>
<p>The projection operator for the state with spin +1/2 in the <img src='http://asymptotia.com/mimetex/pictures/8fd082536a0a420385519d1473c9d27e.gif' title='\vec{a}' alt='\vec{a}' align=absmiddle/> direction is therefore:</p>
<p><img src='http://asymptotia.com/mimetex/pictures/4d9ffa75675ba06f4d30faa031174f12.gif' title='(1+\hat{a})/2' alt='(1+\hat{a})/2' align=absmiddle/></p>
<p>To distinguish between electron and positron I need a &#8220;charge&#8221; operator.  Peskin &amp; Schroeder use <img src='http://asymptotia.com/mimetex/pictures/24049c035171ae39a2c8a7e132393100.gif' title='Q = \hat{t}' alt='Q = \hat{t}' align=absmiddle/>, and the projection operator for this is <img src='http://asymptotia.com/mimetex/pictures/908a767b11aa72819396871c44638d20.gif' title='(1\pm \hat{t})/2' alt='(1\pm \hat{t})/2' align=absmiddle/></p>
<p>Therefore, the complete solution for the density operator (qubit) representation of an electron / positron is the product of these two (commuting) projection operators:</p>
<p><img src='http://asymptotia.com/mimetex/pictures/7b8d0dd9889c0d5ecd2d13f88bb2f788.gif' title='(1 + i\hat{x}\hat{y}\hat{z}(a_x\hat{x}+a_y\hat{y} + a_z\hat{z}))(1\pm \hat{t})/4' alt='(1 + i\hat{x}\hat{y}\hat{z}(a_x\hat{x}+a_y\hat{y} + a_z\hat{z}))(1\pm \hat{t})/4' align=absmiddle/></p>
<p>where the P&amp;S convention is that the + sign gives the electron and - sign gives the positron.  To translate this into the usual (inelegant) spinor notation, one chooses a representation for the operators, and computes the matrix equivalent:</p>
<p><img src='http://asymptotia.com/mimetex/pictures/f626c214c9ebf3b9a0776eaab199bda0.gif' title='\frac{1}{4}\left(\begin{array}{cccc}&#13;&#10;1+a_z&amp;amp;a_x-ia_y&amp;amp;\pm(1+a_z)&amp;amp;\pm(a_x-ia_y)\\&#13;&#10;a_x+ia_y&amp;amp;1-a_z&amp;amp;\pm(a_x+ia_y)&amp;amp;\pm(1-a_z)\\&#13;&#10;\pm(1+a_z)&amp;amp;\pm(a_x-ia_y)&amp;amp;1+a_z&amp;amp;a_x-ia_y\\&#13;&#10;\pm(a_x+ia_y)&amp;amp;\pm(1-a_z)&amp;amp;a_x+ia_y&amp;amp;1-a_z\end{array}\right)' alt='\frac{1}{4}\left(\begin{array}{cccc}&#13;&#10;1+a_z&amp;amp;a_x-ia_y&amp;amp;\pm(1+a_z)&amp;amp;\pm(a_x-ia_y)\\&#13;&#10;a_x+ia_y&amp;amp;1-a_z&amp;amp;\pm(a_x+ia_y)&amp;amp;\pm(1-a_z)\\&#13;&#10;\pm(1+a_z)&amp;amp;\pm(a_x-ia_y)&amp;amp;1+a_z&amp;amp;a_x-ia_y\\&#13;&#10;\pm(a_x+ia_y)&amp;amp;\pm(1-a_z)&amp;amp;a_x+ia_y&amp;amp;1-a_z\end{array}\right)' align=absmiddle/></p>
<p>The spinor is any non zero column of the above matrix.  For the particular example that P&amp;S slaves over, <img src='http://asymptotia.com/mimetex/pictures/513d3a5ce9e7ec7d2213c14e1db8a8ca.gif' title='\vec{a} = (0,0,1)' alt='\vec{a} = (0,0,1)' align=absmiddle/> and the resulting spinor is (1,0,1,0), which is what one obtains as a special case above (times 1/2).</p>
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		<title>By: Carl Brannen</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2007/01/28/looking-ahead-to-tomorrow/#comment-26159</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl Brannen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 05:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here, let me better explain how physics cripples itself with symmetry when there are other, far more practical and easy to use methods of achieving the same thing.

Pick up your copy of Peskin and Schroeder and look up the section early in the book where they derive the constant spinors in the chiral representation.  The derivation takes a half dozen pages and involves assumptions about spinors as representatives of the Lorentz or Poincare symmetry.  At the end, a spinor pops out, but it was a hell of a lot of work.  This is the way particle theory is done because it is based on the assumption that symmetry is fundamental.

The way I do particle physics is from the &lt;a href="http://brannenworks.com/dmaa.pdf" rel="nofollow"&gt; operator&lt;/a&gt; point of view.  For the Dirac algebra, it is the operators themselves, as elements of a Clifford algebra that are foundational, and so the theory is directly related to the vectors of the Clifford algebra, [tex]\gamma_0, \gamma_1, \gamma_2, \gamma_3[/tex].

In the operator language, symmetry, and spinors, are just mathematical conveniences, it is the operators that are fundamental.  And these operators are geometric (i.e. Hestenes' Geometric Algebra) in nature.  In this language, the problems which are so messy in the symmetry language become quite trivial in the operator language.  For example, the wikipedia entry for &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spinor#Example:_Spinors_of_the_Dirac_Algebra" rel="nofollow"&gt;spinors&lt;/a&gt; uses operator theory.  In one page it derives the spinor for an electron or positron in an arbitrary orientation.  About 1/6th of P&#38;S's efforts for more results.

Standard physics makes the assumption that relativity is perfect (a symmetry principle) and derives everything from this, at great effort and with oodles of undetermined constants (as arise in any attempt to use symmetry to solve a math problem).  Operator physics makes the assumption that the geometry of spacetime is the Dirac algebra and gets the same results trivially.

Now let's try and unify the particles.  From the symmetry point of view, you have a damned near infinite number of possible choices of symmetry, which particles are present, and how they interact.  From the operator point of view, the only thing you can do is generalize the Dirac algebra to a more general Clifford algebra.  Which one of these techniques makes sense to you?  How many vacua can 5000 particlel theorists explore in 30 years given that there are [tex]10^{500}[/tex] to look through?  Operator theory is very restrictive, and that means that you have a hope in Hell of solving the problem.

The reason that obsolete techniques become obsolete in physics, in the face of the very strong sociological pressures towards conservatism, is because graduate students don't like to solve problems the hard way.  Symmetry is the hard way and is doomed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here, let me better explain how physics cripples itself with symmetry when there are other, far more practical and easy to use methods of achieving the same thing.</p>
<p>Pick up your copy of Peskin and Schroeder and look up the section early in the book where they derive the constant spinors in the chiral representation.  The derivation takes a half dozen pages and involves assumptions about spinors as representatives of the Lorentz or Poincare symmetry.  At the end, a spinor pops out, but it was a hell of a lot of work.  This is the way particle theory is done because it is based on the assumption that symmetry is fundamental.</p>
<p>The way I do particle physics is from the <a href="http://brannenworks.com/dmaa.pdf" rel="nofollow"> operator</a> point of view.  For the Dirac algebra, it is the operators themselves, as elements of a Clifford algebra that are foundational, and so the theory is directly related to the vectors of the Clifford algebra, <img src='http://asymptotia.com/mimetex/pictures/5aac965ecd359fce3b5b785d270e7c02.gif' title='\gamma_0, \gamma_1, \gamma_2, \gamma_3' alt='\gamma_0, \gamma_1, \gamma_2, \gamma_3' align=absmiddle/>.</p>
<p>In the operator language, symmetry, and spinors, are just mathematical conveniences, it is the operators that are fundamental.  And these operators are geometric (i.e. Hestenes&#8217; Geometric Algebra) in nature.  In this language, the problems which are so messy in the symmetry language become quite trivial in the operator language.  For example, the wikipedia entry for <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spinor#Example:_Spinors_of_the_Dirac_Algebra" rel="nofollow">spinors</a> uses operator theory.  In one page it derives the spinor for an electron or positron in an arbitrary orientation.  About 1/6th of P&amp;S&#8217;s efforts for more results.</p>
<p>Standard physics makes the assumption that relativity is perfect (a symmetry principle) and derives everything from this, at great effort and with oodles of undetermined constants (as arise in any attempt to use symmetry to solve a math problem).  Operator physics makes the assumption that the geometry of spacetime is the Dirac algebra and gets the same results trivially.</p>
<p>Now let&#8217;s try and unify the particles.  From the symmetry point of view, you have a damned near infinite number of possible choices of symmetry, which particles are present, and how they interact.  From the operator point of view, the only thing you can do is generalize the Dirac algebra to a more general Clifford algebra.  Which one of these techniques makes sense to you?  How many vacua can 5000 particlel theorists explore in 30 years given that there are <img src='http://asymptotia.com/mimetex/pictures/ba3d7b18ea7388857c06410f4fc0effe.gif' title='10^{500}' alt='10^{500}' align=absmiddle/> to look through?  Operator theory is very restrictive, and that means that you have a hope in Hell of solving the problem.</p>
<p>The reason that obsolete techniques become obsolete in physics, in the face of the very strong sociological pressures towards conservatism, is because graduate students don&#8217;t like to solve problems the hard way.  Symmetry is the hard way and is doomed.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl Brannen</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2007/01/28/looking-ahead-to-tomorrow/#comment-26156</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl Brannen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 05:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just between you and me, the whole problem with physics nowadays is precisely the reliance on symmetry arguments.  Yes, it is possible to make great strides knowing symmetry, but the primary use of it is when you are clueless about what is going on at the fundamental level.  This is the case with physics now, but the next advance will be to give physics a foundation in real things.

The foundations of physics are shrouded in mystery, symmetry is a useful tool for this.  Biology is based on chemistry and all that, the foundations are very practical and are well understood at an intuitive level.  If anything, the biologists should be over giving assistance to the physicists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just between you and me, the whole problem with physics nowadays is precisely the reliance on symmetry arguments.  Yes, it is possible to make great strides knowing symmetry, but the primary use of it is when you are clueless about what is going on at the fundamental level.  This is the case with physics now, but the next advance will be to give physics a foundation in real things.</p>
<p>The foundations of physics are shrouded in mystery, symmetry is a useful tool for this.  Biology is based on chemistry and all that, the foundations are very practical and are well understood at an intuitive level.  If anything, the biologists should be over giving assistance to the physicists.</p>
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		<title>By: New Einstein Letters - Asymptotia</title>
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		<dc:creator>New Einstein Letters - Asymptotia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 23:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I&#8217;m not supposed to be blogging, since I&#8217;ve got to go and set up and introduce the visiting speaker, but I thought I&#8217;d point you to an LA Times (front page!) article by John Johnson, talking about some new material about Einstein and his more &#8220;human&#8221; side, as opposed to the standard image that is portrayed*. The letters (from about 1915, before the completion of his General Theory of Relativity - see a post I did about that work here) speak of more humanity, more vulnerability, insecurity, doubt&#8230; Yes, all those things that the rest of us have. No surprise to some of us that Einstein shared them too, but definitely good to have more &#8220;out there&#8221; to paint a better picture. I&#8217;ve not read the article in its entirety (just skimmed it so far), but it certainly looks interesting, and will point you to more material. The article is here. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I&#8217;m not supposed to be blogging, since I&#8217;ve got to go and set up and introduce the visiting speaker, but I thought I&#8217;d point you to an LA Times (front page!) article by John Johnson, talking about some new material about Einstein and his more &#8220;human&#8221; side, as opposed to the standard image that is portrayed*. The letters (from about 1915, before the completion of his General Theory of Relativity - see a post I did about that work here) speak of more humanity, more vulnerability, insecurity, doubt&#8230; Yes, all those things that the rest of us have. No surprise to some of us that Einstein shared them too, but definitely good to have more &#8220;out there&#8221; to paint a better picture. I&#8217;ve not read the article in its entirety (just skimmed it so far), but it certainly looks interesting, and will point you to more material. The article is here. [...]</p>
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