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		<title>By: ben</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2006/12/03/coiled/#comment-114509</link>
		<dc:creator>ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 11:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a better look should polish the image of e cars, what i think is always  useful!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a better look should polish the image of e cars, what i think is always  useful!</p>
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		<title>By: I&#8217;ve Got Next - Asymptotia</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2006/12/03/coiled/#comment-78744</link>
		<dc:creator>I&#8217;ve Got Next - Asymptotia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 04:27:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Oh, the shoot. I waited a while for them to finish with others (there they are interviewing Elon Musk, you know, the Tesla guy) and then it was my turn. Well, I babbled a bit about science and blogging, including an answer to how I got into blogging (mentioned Sean and Mark as convincing me to join them in setting up Cosmic Variance - sorry Mark, for a moment I blanked on surnames and almost said the wrong one, and it shows - and had to rather cut short my answer and so feel bad for not mentioning our co-founders JoAnne and Risa. I somehow, in &#8220;questions for the kiddies&#8221; - not my words, managed to mention the exciting physics coming up at the Large Hadron Collider (LHC - use the search engine here to find more about it), and a somewhat garbled two or three sentences about particle physics, ideas like extra dimensions, black holes, dark matter, and string theory, and about being sure to stay curious and ask questions in school. Goodness knows how that will come out when they put it all together. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Oh, the shoot. I waited a while for them to finish with others (there they are interviewing Elon Musk, you know, the Tesla guy) and then it was my turn. Well, I babbled a bit about science and blogging, including an answer to how I got into blogging (mentioned Sean and Mark as convincing me to join them in setting up Cosmic Variance - sorry Mark, for a moment I blanked on surnames and almost said the wrong one, and it shows - and had to rather cut short my answer and so feel bad for not mentioning our co-founders JoAnne and Risa. I somehow, in &#8220;questions for the kiddies&#8221; - not my words, managed to mention the exciting physics coming up at the Large Hadron Collider (LHC - use the search engine here to find more about it), and a somewhat garbled two or three sentences about particle physics, ideas like extra dimensions, black holes, dark matter, and string theory, and about being sure to stay curious and ask questions in school. Goodness knows how that will come out when they put it all together. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Clifford</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2006/12/03/coiled/#comment-24155</link>
		<dc:creator>Clifford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2007 15:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DaiLaughing:- Yes, I do know. I was not counting the cars made there under the direction of car manufacturers from abroad. You subtract that, and it does not leave you with much, sadly.

Cheers,


-cvj</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DaiLaughing:- Yes, I do know. I was not counting the cars made there under the direction of car manufacturers from abroad. You subtract that, and it does not leave you with much, sadly.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>-cvj</p>
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		<title>By: DaiLaughing</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2006/12/03/coiled/#comment-24130</link>
		<dc:creator>DaiLaughing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2007 11:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No comment on the car really as it has been said - I love this approach to electric cars but realistically environmental concerns remain.

On the "England, a country that more or less lost its ability to make cars for the general consumer a while back." you may not be aware that we make a lot of cars still.  We can still make good cars and more efficiently than the Japanese and others.

Unfortunately we make them for the same Japanese and others.  We have plenty of production facilities for cars, we just don't own them:-(

That applies to the Lotus factory as well which is owned by Proton.  Thankfully they let the weird types at Lotus follow their instincts which results in some excellent products including this one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No comment on the car really as it has been said - I love this approach to electric cars but realistically environmental concerns remain.</p>
<p>On the &#8220;England, a country that more or less lost its ability to make cars for the general consumer a while back.&#8221; you may not be aware that we make a lot of cars still.  We can still make good cars and more efficiently than the Japanese and others.</p>
<p>Unfortunately we make them for the same Japanese and others.  We have plenty of production facilities for cars, we just don&#8217;t own them:-(</p>
<p>That applies to the Lotus factory as well which is owned by Proton.  Thankfully they let the weird types at Lotus follow their instincts which results in some excellent products including this one.</p>
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		<title>By: Potential - Asymptotia</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2006/12/03/coiled/#comment-23899</link>
		<dc:creator>Potential - Asymptotia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2007 00:51:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Recall that a little over a month ago I reported about the Tesla electric car to you? In that article, I congratulated the car makers on their choice of name, and speculated about what other names might be used in the future when more car manufacturers get into the game. One of my favourites was the &#8220;Volt&#8221;. Well, today, GM announced a new electric car in development, and guess what they called it? The Volt! I was rather prescient, it seems! More on the announcement of the Chevy Volt at Newsweek (I borrowed the picture from there) and The Mercury. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Recall that a little over a month ago I reported about the Tesla electric car to you? In that article, I congratulated the car makers on their choice of name, and speculated about what other names might be used in the future when more car manufacturers get into the game. One of my favourites was the &#8220;Volt&#8221;. Well, today, GM announced a new electric car in development, and guess what they called it? The Volt! I was rather prescient, it seems! More on the announcement of the Chevy Volt at Newsweek (I borrowed the picture from there) and The Mercury. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Louise</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2006/12/03/coiled/#comment-7755</link>
		<dc:creator>Louise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 06:34:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great that someone is out to make e-cars sexy!  How about a woman posing in black leather, or NASCAR coveralls.  We must contact these people...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great that someone is out to make e-cars sexy!  How about a woman posing in black leather, or NASCAR coveralls.  We must contact these people&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Uitti</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2006/12/03/coiled/#comment-7257</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Uitti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2006 21:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While i have no problem with testosterone red sports cars, i'm not into convertables.  Where do i put my 17' (5 m) canoe?

What i want is an efficient car.  At the moment, i'm driving a sedan that is getting 43 MPG.  It's "just" a 1.9 liter 4 cylinder engine with a 5 speed manual.  It was cheap.  I bought it on the used market.  The Kelly Blue book value was $1500 for this 5 year old 150,000 mile car.  I've put 25,000 miles on it in the past year.  When it dies, i'll look for another great deal.

What do i want in a car?  Efficiency.  A/C.  Cruise Control. AM/FM radio with Aux in for my mp3 player.  White, so it doesn't get so hot in the summer.  Space for my telescope.  4 door hatchback.

What can i get?  Not much.  It seems hard to find a car that actually gets over 40 MPG.  This one has an EPA rating of 32 MPG highway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While i have no problem with testosterone red sports cars, i&#8217;m not into convertables.  Where do i put my 17&#8242; (5 m) canoe?</p>
<p>What i want is an efficient car.  At the moment, i&#8217;m driving a sedan that is getting 43 MPG.  It&#8217;s &#8220;just&#8221; a 1.9 liter 4 cylinder engine with a 5 speed manual.  It was cheap.  I bought it on the used market.  The Kelly Blue book value was $1500 for this 5 year old 150,000 mile car.  I&#8217;ve put 25,000 miles on it in the past year.  When it dies, i&#8217;ll look for another great deal.</p>
<p>What do i want in a car?  Efficiency.  A/C.  Cruise Control. AM/FM radio with Aux in for my mp3 player.  White, so it doesn&#8217;t get so hot in the summer.  Space for my telescope.  4 door hatchback.</p>
<p>What can i get?  Not much.  It seems hard to find a car that actually gets over 40 MPG.  This one has an EPA rating of 32 MPG highway.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl Brannen</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2006/12/03/coiled/#comment-7098</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl Brannen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2006 01:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My favorite all time car name is the Daihatsu "Charade".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My favorite all time car name is the Daihatsu &#8220;Charade&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: DancingBear</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2006/12/03/coiled/#comment-7097</link>
		<dc:creator>DancingBear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2006 01:22:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of Tesla, what an interesting fellow! Among many other things, he may have discovered X-ray photography before Roentgen... and his ideas for the wireless transmission of power (not just signals, mind you) are just what is still sorely needed for our laptops.

I recently much enjoyed watching David Bowie play Tesla in "The Prestige" (a flawed movie, unfortunately: in a plot about stage magic, the main plot device is true magic). But how badly I digress...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of Tesla, what an interesting fellow! Among many other things, he may have discovered X-ray photography before Roentgen&#8230; and his ideas for the wireless transmission of power (not just signals, mind you) are just what is still sorely needed for our laptops.</p>
<p>I recently much enjoyed watching David Bowie play Tesla in &#8220;The Prestige&#8221; (a flawed movie, unfortunately: in a plot about stage magic, the main plot device is true magic). But how badly I digress&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Cynthia</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2006/12/03/coiled/#comment-7088</link>
		<dc:creator>Cynthia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2006 00:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Clifford!

Whether there's a sexy woman or not behind the wheel of this car, I seriously doubt -- unless you thrive living on the edge, so to speak -- that you'd opt to sit in the passenger's seat, especially as this car hits 130 mph.

Brace yourself,;)
Cynthia</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Clifford!</p>
<p>Whether there&#8217;s a sexy woman or not behind the wheel of this car, I seriously doubt &#8212; unless you thrive living on the edge, so to speak &#8212; that you&#8217;d opt to sit in the passenger&#8217;s seat, especially as this car hits 130 mph.</p>
<p>Brace yourself,;)<br />
Cynthia</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2006/12/03/coiled/#comment-7087</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 23:09:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't think I'm presenting any stereotype.  My source is mostly the latest report from the DOE (2004).  You can get it &lt;a href="http://www.eia.doe.gov/cneaf/electricity/st_profiles/sep2004.pdf" rel="nofollow"&gt;here.&lt;/a&gt;

Of course the specific source of electricy changes from place to place but, globally,  coal and natural gas  are by far the most important, followed by hydropower and nuclear sources.  

In some states, like Idaho, hydroelectricity is the dominant component, but not if you consider the entire country.  It's true that solar and wind powered stations are common in California, but the amount of electricity they produce is relatively small.  In fact, for California in 2004 we have electricity generated from the following sources,

Natural gas 51.6%
Hydroelectric 17.5%
Nuclear 15.5%
Other renewables 12.4%

In Montana 65% of the electricity generated comes from coal.  And no, burning natural gas and coal is &lt;strong&gt;not&lt;/strong&gt; clean.  Maybe in the future it will be, and under some other administration.   For the time being, however, the US is the largest producer of global warming gases and a good fraction of those comes from electricity generation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;m presenting any stereotype.  My source is mostly the latest report from the DOE (2004).  You can get it <a href="http://www.eia.doe.gov/cneaf/electricity/st_profiles/sep2004.pdf" rel="nofollow">here.</a></p>
<p>Of course the specific source of electricy changes from place to place but, globally,  coal and natural gas  are by far the most important, followed by hydropower and nuclear sources.  </p>
<p>In some states, like Idaho, hydroelectricity is the dominant component, but not if you consider the entire country.  It&#8217;s true that solar and wind powered stations are common in California, but the amount of electricity they produce is relatively small.  In fact, for California in 2004 we have electricity generated from the following sources,</p>
<p>Natural gas 51.6%<br />
Hydroelectric 17.5%<br />
Nuclear 15.5%<br />
Other renewables 12.4%</p>
<p>In Montana 65% of the electricity generated comes from coal.  And no, burning natural gas and coal is <strong>not</strong> clean.  Maybe in the future it will be, and under some other administration.   For the time being, however, the US is the largest producer of global warming gases and a good fraction of those comes from electricity generation.</p>
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		<title>By: Clifford</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2006/12/03/coiled/#comment-7083</link>
		<dc:creator>Clifford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 21:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cynthia, thanks. Frankly, the willowy woman dressed in the slinky gown is not missed. I find they just get in the way of the car being advertised. I for one would begin to find the woman  sexy if she were dressed in practical clothes and was behind the wheel of the car, controlling it successfully around a bend at 130 mph. 

But maybe that is just me.

-cvj</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cynthia, thanks. Frankly, the willowy woman dressed in the slinky gown is not missed. I find they just get in the way of the car being advertised. I for one would begin to find the woman  sexy if she were dressed in practical clothes and was behind the wheel of the car, controlling it successfully around a bend at 130 mph. </p>
<p>But maybe that is just me.</p>
<p>-cvj</p>
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		<title>By: Cynthia</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2006/12/03/coiled/#comment-7082</link>
		<dc:creator>Cynthia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 21:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now, Clifford, there's one thing terribly amiss with this picture! It seems as though the auto-marketeers left out one key component in this snapshot: a willowy woman dressed up in a slinky gown hovering over the Tesla.

Without a doubt, you must have an eagle eye to detect this subtle paradox: the paradox of geeky engineers with a left-wing bent overlapping well-to-do LA'ers with a postmodern sort of mindset.

This story vaguely reminds me of a social-worker friend of mine who just so happens to (believe it or not) model for auto-shows on the side. What a strange juxtaposition: on the one hand, she cares for the most disenfranchised folks in the community; however, on the other hand, she caters to the most enfranchised members of society. Indeed, such an odd juxtaposing at work here: rich and poor, side by side!

And yet, because my friend has an overall wholesome, girl-next-door look about her, she's confined to modeling for automobiles with a --more or less-- conservative appearance. Since Tesla is designed with lots of sex appeal in mind, I think it's most fitting to equipped this red sports car with a rather racy looking model.;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, Clifford, there&#8217;s one thing terribly amiss with this picture! It seems as though the auto-marketeers left out one key component in this snapshot: a willowy woman dressed up in a slinky gown hovering over the Tesla.</p>
<p>Without a doubt, you must have an eagle eye to detect this subtle paradox: the paradox of geeky engineers with a left-wing bent overlapping well-to-do LA&#8217;ers with a postmodern sort of mindset.</p>
<p>This story vaguely reminds me of a social-worker friend of mine who just so happens to (believe it or not) model for auto-shows on the side. What a strange juxtaposition: on the one hand, she cares for the most disenfranchised folks in the community; however, on the other hand, she caters to the most enfranchised members of society. Indeed, such an odd juxtaposing at work here: rich and poor, side by side!</p>
<p>And yet, because my friend has an overall wholesome, girl-next-door look about her, she&#8217;s confined to modeling for automobiles with a &#8211;more or less&#8211; conservative appearance. Since Tesla is designed with lots of sex appeal in mind, I think it&#8217;s most fitting to equipped this red sports car with a rather racy looking model.;)</p>
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		<title>By: spyder</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2006/12/03/coiled/#comment-7065</link>
		<dc:creator>spyder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 18:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't know where Jack and gerry atric accumulate their factual premises, but the stereotypes and generalization they present are fairly inaccurate.  At the moment, the electricity i use in my home is being generated by hydroelectric and incinerator-burning of household wastes.  Montana and North Dakota are building clean-burning coal-fueled energy plants and expanding wind generation.  SoCal has large scale solar and wind generation, and with the million solar roof projects, electric cars will be charging on the sun, not the power grid.  

As for the apparent obsolescence of hybrids??? Europe has had rules and regulations that require automakers (US and Asian too) to build vehicles that are for the most part fully recycleable, parts or whole.  Most hybrids imported into the US are built with those sorts of interchangeable systems, particularly the Toyota models.  If the problem is batteries, then please research that field more thoroughly as there are now options available that last decades of recharging at higher amps than the trash that is "standard" equipment.  

I love performance sports cars, owning them since my first 1962 Porsche purchased in 1965, right up to selling of my 2003 WRX in Jan 2005.  Since then i have been without vehicles relying on public mass transit for conveyance.  The Tesla looks cool, but i hope Lotus is building better cars now than they did in the early 70's (that Elite was a mess).  I can only hope, with Clifford, that this inspires dozens of manufacturers to join in the design and building of our future transportation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know where Jack and gerry atric accumulate their factual premises, but the stereotypes and generalization they present are fairly inaccurate.  At the moment, the electricity i use in my home is being generated by hydroelectric and incinerator-burning of household wastes.  Montana and North Dakota are building clean-burning coal-fueled energy plants and expanding wind generation.  SoCal has large scale solar and wind generation, and with the million solar roof projects, electric cars will be charging on the sun, not the power grid.  </p>
<p>As for the apparent obsolescence of hybrids??? Europe has had rules and regulations that require automakers (US and Asian too) to build vehicles that are for the most part fully recycleable, parts or whole.  Most hybrids imported into the US are built with those sorts of interchangeable systems, particularly the Toyota models.  If the problem is batteries, then please research that field more thoroughly as there are now options available that last decades of recharging at higher amps than the trash that is &#8220;standard&#8221; equipment.  </p>
<p>I love performance sports cars, owning them since my first 1962 Porsche purchased in 1965, right up to selling of my 2003 WRX in Jan 2005.  Since then i have been without vehicles relying on public mass transit for conveyance.  The Tesla looks cool, but i hope Lotus is building better cars now than they did in the early 70&#8217;s (that Elite was a mess).  I can only hope, with Clifford, that this inspires dozens of manufacturers to join in the design and building of our future transportation.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2006/12/03/coiled/#comment-7055</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 17:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm not sure electric cars are better for the environment than gasoline cars.  Electricity is generated by burning coal, which is more polluting than burning oil.

Now, electric cars do save gasoline, which means buying less Arab oil, which definitely contributes to improving our &lt;em&gt;political&lt;/em&gt; environment.  

&lt;blockquote&gt;put more well known cars to shame,&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Not that it is important, but I think "better known" is much more well sounding  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure electric cars are better for the environment than gasoline cars.  Electricity is generated by burning coal, which is more polluting than burning oil.</p>
<p>Now, electric cars do save gasoline, which means buying less Arab oil, which definitely contributes to improving our <em>political</em> environment.  </p>
<blockquote><p>put more well known cars to shame,</p></blockquote>
<p>Not that it is important, but I think &#8220;better known&#8221; is much more well sounding  <img src='http://asymptotia.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Mary Cole</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2006/12/03/coiled/#comment-7030</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Cole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 11:08:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My car fantasy would be to have a high performance sports car (perhaps an Astin Martin) and drive it REALLY SLOWLY just to anoy people. Actually, my real fantasy car would be to own an Austin 35. Perhaps this would fulfil 'gerry atric's' criteria for keeping a car for 20 years in order to be kinder to the environment. I certainly wouldn't want to part with such a magnificent car in a hurry!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My car fantasy would be to have a high performance sports car (perhaps an Astin Martin) and drive it REALLY SLOWLY just to anoy people. Actually, my real fantasy car would be to own an Austin 35. Perhaps this would fulfil &#8216;gerry atric&#8217;s&#8217; criteria for keeping a car for 20 years in order to be kinder to the environment. I certainly wouldn&#8217;t want to part with such a magnificent car in a hurry!</p>
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		<title>By: gerry atric</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2006/12/03/coiled/#comment-7017</link>
		<dc:creator>gerry atric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 09:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sadly, it's not at all clear that things like this really help the environment. For example, the real cost to the environment of hybrids like the Prius is horrendous -- worse than a lot of SUVs. The problem with such cars is that they just don't last very long, and frequent replacement of cars is their worst aspect, worse than gas-guzzling. A Porsche that you buy and keep for 20 years [because it was so expensive, and because it was so well-built that it will actually last that long] is better for the environment than an electric car that you throw away and replace every couple of years.

So: what we need to do is to give incentives to people to buy really durable cars and hang on to them for 10 years at least. I know that I'd rather get a Porsche and keep it, than buy some rubbishy hybrid every 3 years. My present car is 9 years old.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sadly, it&#8217;s not at all clear that things like this really help the environment. For example, the real cost to the environment of hybrids like the Prius is horrendous &#8212; worse than a lot of SUVs. The problem with such cars is that they just don&#8217;t last very long, and frequent replacement of cars is their worst aspect, worse than gas-guzzling. A Porsche that you buy and keep for 20 years [because it was so expensive, and because it was so well-built that it will actually last that long] is better for the environment than an electric car that you throw away and replace every couple of years.</p>
<p>So: what we need to do is to give incentives to people to buy really durable cars and hang on to them for 10 years at least. I know that I&#8217;d rather get a Porsche and keep it, than buy some rubbishy hybrid every 3 years. My present car is 9 years old.</p>
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		<title>By: Pyracantha</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2006/12/03/coiled/#comment-7003</link>
		<dc:creator>Pyracantha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 07:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, the title is close to physics if not exactly high energy physics, I now drive a Honda Element.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the title is close to physics if not exactly high energy physics, I now drive a Honda Element.</p>
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		<title>By: stevem</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2006/12/03/coiled/#comment-6996</link>
		<dc:creator>stevem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 06:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about the "Ferrari Electrodynamic" or the "Electrodynamic Range"? Years later the original would perhaps become known as the "Classic Electrodynamic".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about the &#8220;Ferrari Electrodynamic&#8221; or the &#8220;Electrodynamic Range&#8221;? Years later the original would perhaps become known as the &#8220;Classic Electrodynamic&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Yvette</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2006/12/03/coiled/#comment-6994</link>
		<dc:creator>Yvette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 05:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"One of the things I love about this car (besides for example that is does all of these amazing performance while being very very quiet, which is to counterintuitive oneâ€™s expectations for driving a high performance vehicle) is the name Tesla. I have to admit that is an excellent choice. It almost makes me want to go out and find the $100,000. Almost."

My dad's an EE currently undergoing a midlife crisis in the car arena, so I had the audacity to send him the link for this reason alone.  Thanks for it!

Just wondering though, cost-wise how much cheaper is it to plug your car into the wall than to pay for gas?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;One of the things I love about this car (besides for example that is does all of these amazing performance while being very very quiet, which is to counterintuitive oneâ€™s expectations for driving a high performance vehicle) is the name Tesla. I have to admit that is an excellent choice. It almost makes me want to go out and find the $100,000. Almost.&#8221;</p>
<p>My dad&#8217;s an EE currently undergoing a midlife crisis in the car arena, so I had the audacity to send him the link for this reason alone.  Thanks for it!</p>
<p>Just wondering though, cost-wise how much cheaper is it to plug your car into the wall than to pay for gas?</p>
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