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		<title>By: Say Lee</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2006/08/31/california-steps-forward-again/#comment-40001</link>
		<dc:creator>Say Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 23:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In case you're not aware, the case has been decided as per the following news in brief taken from the April 10, 2007 issue of EOS:

"Court rules on U.S. greenhouse gas regulation The U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that greenhouse gases are pollutantsâ€™ under the federal Clean Air Act and that the U.S. government has the authority to regulate them. Twelve states and several non-profit organizations had sued the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency after EPA ruled in 2003 that it lacked authority to regulate greenhouse gas emissions from automobiles. The Court, in its 5-4 ruling, objected to EPAâ€™s â€œlaundry list of reasons not to regulateâ€ greenhouse gases and said that EPA â€œoffered no reasoned explanation for its refusal to decide whether greenhouse gases cause or contribute to climate change.â€ EPA was ordered to revisit its decision on regulating greenhouse gas emissions from automobiles. The full Court opinion on Massachusetts vs. EPA is available at http://www.supremecourtus.gov/opinions/06pdf/05-1120.pdf."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In case you&#8217;re not aware, the case has been decided as per the following news in brief taken from the April 10, 2007 issue of EOS:</p>
<p>&#8220;Court rules on U.S. greenhouse gas regulation The U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that greenhouse gases are pollutantsâ€™ under the federal Clean Air Act and that the U.S. government has the authority to regulate them. Twelve states and several non-profit organizations had sued the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency after EPA ruled in 2003 that it lacked authority to regulate greenhouse gas emissions from automobiles. The Court, in its 5-4 ruling, objected to EPAâ€™s â€œlaundry list of reasons not to regulateâ€ greenhouse gases and said that EPA â€œoffered no reasoned explanation for its refusal to decide whether greenhouse gases cause or contribute to climate change.â€ EPA was ordered to revisit its decision on regulating greenhouse gas emissions from automobiles. The full Court opinion on Massachusetts vs. EPA is available at <a href="http://www.supremecourtus.gov/opinions/06pdf/05-1120.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.supremecourtus.gov/opinions/06pdf/05-1120.pdf</a>.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: How Many Legislators Does it Take to Change a Lightbulb? - Asymptotia</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2006/08/31/california-steps-forward-again/#comment-27000</link>
		<dc:creator>How Many Legislators Does it Take to Change a Lightbulb? - Asymptotia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 08:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This is a joke (the title) that works rather well, while being a serious issue as well. It&#8217;s all about trying to reduce our energy waste here in California, and contribute to the commitment to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. The idea is to change from the garden variety incandescent bulbs (see left) to the compact fluorescent ones (see right). It&#8217;s striking that more people don&#8217;t already use them. Ordinary bulbs (apparently 2 billion of them sold every year in the USA) convert only about 5 percent of the energy that they consume into light. The rest is just wasted heat. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This is a joke (the title) that works rather well, while being a serious issue as well. It&#8217;s all about trying to reduce our energy waste here in California, and contribute to the commitment to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. The idea is to change from the garden variety incandescent bulbs (see left) to the compact fluorescent ones (see right). It&#8217;s striking that more people don&#8217;t already use them. Ordinary bulbs (apparently 2 billion of them sold every year in the USA) convert only about 5 percent of the energy that they consume into light. The rest is just wasted heat. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Government Gets Stern - Asymptotia</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2006/08/31/california-steps-forward-again/#comment-2977</link>
		<dc:creator>Government Gets Stern - Asymptotia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Oct 2006 03:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I&#8217;d have a lot more to say, but I&#8217;ve said so much about this already, and I&#8217;m not really up to a long post on this right now. But I could not let this excellent (and hopefully landmark) event go unmarked. The point, as has been said before:- Nobody is going to get going on this because it is &#8220;the right thing to do&#8221;, since it is difficult for individuals and businesses to act in a way that makes things less than convenient for yourself for a cause that seems so abstract. Pure market forces will not do it either. We need actual leadership from the scientists -which has more or less happened for a while now (see my earlier reports on the UCS here and here  for example)- and action and structure put in place by the people who will really get things going: economists and then governments (because they follow the money). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I&#8217;d have a lot more to say, but I&#8217;ve said so much about this already, and I&#8217;m not really up to a long post on this right now. But I could not let this excellent (and hopefully landmark) event go unmarked. The point, as has been said before:- Nobody is going to get going on this because it is &#8220;the right thing to do&#8221;, since it is difficult for individuals and businesses to act in a way that makes things less than convenient for yourself for a cause that seems so abstract. Pure market forces will not do it either. We need actual leadership from the scientists -which has more or less happened for a while now (see my earlier reports on the UCS here and here  for example)- and action and structure put in place by the people who will really get things going: economists and then governments (because they follow the money). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Well, That&#8217;s a Novel Approach - Asymptotia</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2006/08/31/california-steps-forward-again/#comment-1255</link>
		<dc:creator>Well, That&#8217;s a Novel Approach - Asymptotia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 13:35:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Well, we all know that California is leading the way in many areas. Not long ago we discussed the recent news of California&#8217;s commitment to reduce greenhouse gas emissions by 25% by the year 2020. But, I have to admit, I did not anticipate a lawsuit as the next salvo in the battle! From the BBC (for example), in a report yesterday: The state of California is suing six carmakers for costs associated with their cars&#8217; greenhouse gas emissions. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Well, we all know that California is leading the way in many areas. Not long ago we discussed the recent news of California&#8217;s commitment to reduce greenhouse gas emissions by 25% by the year 2020. But, I have to admit, I did not anticipate a lawsuit as the next salvo in the battle! From the BBC (for example), in a report yesterday: The state of California is suing six carmakers for costs associated with their cars&#8217; greenhouse gas emissions. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Clifford</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2006/08/31/california-steps-forward-again/#comment-917</link>
		<dc:creator>Clifford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Sep 2006 00:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi... I think that this was mentioned int he talk of the Union of Concerned Scientists President's talk in Aspen. I am not following it... but will keep an eye out... thanks!

-cvj</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi&#8230; I think that this was mentioned int he talk of the Union of Concerned Scientists President&#8217;s talk in Aspen. I am not following it&#8230; but will keep an eye out&#8230; thanks!</p>
<p>-cvj</p>
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		<title>By: Say Lee</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2006/08/31/california-steps-forward-again/#comment-916</link>
		<dc:creator>Say Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Sep 2006 00:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Read the following in the Sep/Oct 2006 issue of CALIFORNIA, a publication of the California Alumni Association at UCB as excerpted below:

"... among a group of the nation's leading climatologists who have signed an amicus brief to the US Supreme Court in support of the 11 states, including California, Connecticut, Illinois, and Massachusetts, that have sued the EPA for failing to regulate greenhouse gases, primarily the high levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere ... In late June, the US Supreme Court agreed to hear the case this fall."

Anyone following the case?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read the following in the Sep/Oct 2006 issue of CALIFORNIA, a publication of the California Alumni Association at UCB as excerpted below:</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230; among a group of the nation&#8217;s leading climatologists who have signed an amicus brief to the US Supreme Court in support of the 11 states, including California, Connecticut, Illinois, and Massachusetts, that have sued the EPA for failing to regulate greenhouse gases, primarily the high levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere &#8230; In late June, the US Supreme Court agreed to hear the case this fall.&#8221;</p>
<p>Anyone following the case?</p>
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		<title>By: Clifford</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2006/08/31/california-steps-forward-again/#comment-862</link>
		<dc:creator>Clifford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Sep 2006 00:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bee,

I very much agree with you. And so do many people who are advocating for energy alternatives. It is indeed the case that one of the best alternative energy resources is the maximize the energy that you &lt;em&gt;don't&lt;/em&gt; use. I'm amazed by how much energy my own house leaks during both Summer and Winter, for example. When I lived on the East coast, in Princeton and later in Lexington, I was always appalled by how much the heat I used to keep warm was pouring out through the windows, walls and doors. And yes, it is true that the greater part of our energy consumption in the USA is not  for transport. 

Candace, 

Yes, this is why the world is watching, Everyone recalls how dramatically California turned around the air quality by stepping forward on the issue. This is one of the reasons I have the word "again" in the post's title.

Best,

-cvj</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bee,</p>
<p>I very much agree with you. And so do many people who are advocating for energy alternatives. It is indeed the case that one of the best alternative energy resources is the maximize the energy that you <em>don&#8217;t</em> use. I&#8217;m amazed by how much energy my own house leaks during both Summer and Winter, for example. When I lived on the East coast, in Princeton and later in Lexington, I was always appalled by how much the heat I used to keep warm was pouring out through the windows, walls and doors. And yes, it is true that the greater part of our energy consumption in the USA is not  for transport. </p>
<p>Candace, </p>
<p>Yes, this is why the world is watching, Everyone recalls how dramatically California turned around the air quality by stepping forward on the issue. This is one of the reasons I have the word &#8220;again&#8221; in the post&#8217;s title.</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>-cvj</p>
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		<title>By: candace</title>
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		<dc:creator>candace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Sep 2006 21:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This sort of reminds me of California in the early 90s with their pioneering Clean Air Act.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This sort of reminds me of California in the early 90s with their pioneering Clean Air Act.</p>
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		<title>By: Say Lee</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2006/08/31/california-steps-forward-again/#comment-833</link>
		<dc:creator>Say Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Sep 2006 15:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Bee means American homes are badly "insulated".

Anyway that the lifestyle mentalities of Americans and Europeans are diametrically apart is legendary where American consumerism trumps the build-to-last philosophy of most European countries.

Arnold has taken a bold step. Let's hope this is the beginning of many bold steps to come.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Bee means American homes are badly &#8220;insulated&#8221;.</p>
<p>Anyway that the lifestyle mentalities of Americans and Europeans are diametrically apart is legendary where American consumerism trumps the build-to-last philosophy of most European countries.</p>
<p>Arnold has taken a bold step. Let&#8217;s hope this is the beginning of many bold steps to come.</p>
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		<title>By: Bee</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2006/08/31/california-steps-forward-again/#comment-831</link>
		<dc:creator>Bee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Sep 2006 14:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Clifford,

On the danger of sounding very German, I don't even think the main issue are the cars. If the gas prize rises to European levels it might actually cause some people to over-think whether they really need a car suitable to transport the national baseball league in case they come for dinner. And I have seen some of these hybrid things which are kind of cool. So I have hope there will be a rethinking some time soon.

No, I actually think for most of the warmer part of the US  the main problem is that the 'houses' are very badly isolated, if at all. Meaning, during the summer the air condition is constantly running, and during the winter the heating is permanently on. Worse, this also goes for most offices/public buildings and stores. For me it was shocking to see how people live here! A window has to CLOSE, frames should not be made of metal, outside doors should not have rims on all sides. And if you ask me, I'd also say a HOUSE has to be build of stone, not of wood. And don't give me the earthquake argument, if the Japanese know how to do that, maybe ask them. 

Another major issue which I'd say is typically American is the habit of producing things that have to be replaced very soon, the lack of quality. Start with appliances over household stuff, the shear amount of wrappings, but also look at streets/highways where the pavement constantly has to be fixed, houses and stores that are crashed down and rebuild frequently, all the things that are permanently broken, but hey, there's always a customer service hotline. And yes, these permanent replacements waste energy. 

Gee, I DO really sound German here ;-)

Best,

B. 

PS: btw, did you see the latest &lt;a href="http://www.sciamdigital.com/index.cfm?sc=I100209" rel="nofollow"&gt;Sciam-issue on the Future of Energy&lt;/a&gt;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Clifford,</p>
<p>On the danger of sounding very German, I don&#8217;t even think the main issue are the cars. If the gas prize rises to European levels it might actually cause some people to over-think whether they really need a car suitable to transport the national baseball league in case they come for dinner. And I have seen some of these hybrid things which are kind of cool. So I have hope there will be a rethinking some time soon.</p>
<p>No, I actually think for most of the warmer part of the US  the main problem is that the &#8216;houses&#8217; are very badly isolated, if at all. Meaning, during the summer the air condition is constantly running, and during the winter the heating is permanently on. Worse, this also goes for most offices/public buildings and stores. For me it was shocking to see how people live here! A window has to CLOSE, frames should not be made of metal, outside doors should not have rims on all sides. And if you ask me, I&#8217;d also say a HOUSE has to be build of stone, not of wood. And don&#8217;t give me the earthquake argument, if the Japanese know how to do that, maybe ask them. </p>
<p>Another major issue which I&#8217;d say is typically American is the habit of producing things that have to be replaced very soon, the lack of quality. Start with appliances over household stuff, the shear amount of wrappings, but also look at streets/highways where the pavement constantly has to be fixed, houses and stores that are crashed down and rebuild frequently, all the things that are permanently broken, but hey, there&#8217;s always a customer service hotline. And yes, these permanent replacements waste energy. </p>
<p>Gee, I DO really sound German here <img src='http://asymptotia.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>B. </p>
<p>PS: btw, did you see the latest <a href="http://www.sciamdigital.com/index.cfm?sc=I100209" rel="nofollow">Sciam-issue on the Future of Energy</a>?</p>
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		<title>By: Clifford</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2006/08/31/california-steps-forward-again/#comment-790</link>
		<dc:creator>Clifford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Sep 2006 03:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, 

I'm pretty sure that there will always be a degree of uncertainty on this issue, but it seems safe to say that there is wide agreement that there is significant change to the climate brought about by our actions, and that those changes are not positive, taking everything into account.


-cvj</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, </p>
<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure that there will always be a degree of uncertainty on this issue, but it seems safe to say that there is wide agreement that there is significant change to the climate brought about by our actions, and that those changes are not positive, taking everything into account.</p>
<p>-cvj</p>
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		<title>By: Say Lee</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2006/08/31/california-steps-forward-again/#comment-787</link>
		<dc:creator>Say Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Sep 2006 01:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, I see your apology here for not writing the climate change piece.

You mentioned economic uncertainty. But is the scientific uncertainty settled?

The Aug 22 issue of EOS (Are Scientists Underestimating Climate Change?) reports on "at least eight recent developments, largely based on observed changes, point to a higher probability of more serious impacts."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, I see your apology here for not writing the climate change piece.</p>
<p>You mentioned economic uncertainty. But is the scientific uncertainty settled?</p>
<p>The Aug 22 issue of EOS (Are Scientists Underestimating Climate Change?) reports on &#8220;at least eight recent developments, largely based on observed changes, point to a higher probability of more serious impacts.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Clifford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clifford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 18:48:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, but an earlier step to take along the ay would be for him to get rid of all the Hummers he has .....-cvj</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, but an earlier step to take along the ay would be for him to get rid of all the Hummers he has &#8230;..-cvj</p>
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		<title>By: Bee</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2006/08/31/california-steps-forward-again/#comment-746</link>
		<dc:creator>Bee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 15:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is great. Schwarzenegger should teach his folks to turn off their car's engine while shopping, even if this means (Gee!) the air condition stops working...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is great. Schwarzenegger should teach his folks to turn off their car&#8217;s engine while shopping, even if this means (Gee!) the air condition stops working&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: amanda</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2006/08/31/california-steps-forward-again/#comment-732</link>
		<dc:creator>amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 04:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What does this mean for cars? Will it be impossible in California to buy anything with more than 25 horsepower? :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What does this mean for cars? Will it be impossible in California to buy anything with more than 25 horsepower? <img src='http://asymptotia.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Clifford</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2006/08/31/california-steps-forward-again/#comment-729</link>
		<dc:creator>Clifford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 00:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, I just saw "True Lies" again the other night, on HBO. It's still a really enjoyable movie. 

-cvj</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, I just saw &#8220;True Lies&#8221; again the other night, on HBO. It&#8217;s still a really enjoyable movie. </p>
<p>-cvj</p>
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		<title>By: Dissonant</title>
		<link>http://asymptotia.com/2006/08/31/california-steps-forward-again/#comment-726</link>
		<dc:creator>Dissonant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Aug 2006 23:36:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So &lt;i&gt;now&lt;/i&gt; you are a Schwarzenegger fan? ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So <i>now</i> you are a Schwarzenegger fan? <img src='http://asymptotia.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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